Re: Various troubles, firstly icewmbg

On Tue, 19 Aug 2014, Dave wrote:

>> You happened to leave out the environment upon which you are running
>> IceWM, and whether you have used that environment's precompiled
>> packages or built it yourself. This is important, as IceWM may not
>> have been built with support for imlib, without which it is limited to
>> loading xpm-format images, and cannot load png, jpg, et alia.
>
> Thank you for the replies, gentlemen.  I am also running Gentoo, with
> icewm out of portage (1.3.7-r1). I don't know if it's been built with
> imlib, because there is no USE flag for that, but I have imlib and
> imlib2 installed on the system. Also forgot to mention that I'm doing
> dual-display and have USE="xinerama" (nice to be able to say this to
> someone who understands it :=) Xorg-server is at 1.15.0 (latest stable).

I do not use xinerama.. do not have a space on table for more monitors 
:).

>> Using IceWM on X, just start "xinit" then in plain xterm window start
>> "icewm-session". icewmbg sets my background without a problem.
>
> I am starting X with "startx", and exec'ing icewm-session in my
> .xinitrc.

OK, this was just and example how to test "pure" icewm without any 
additional garbage.

>> Both the Fedora distribution one and myself compiled with default
>> options. Not using transparency, but as usually, this is a matter of
>> application, not a WM. The terms that do transparency most often use
>> so called "pseudo transparency" - i.e. you see a background but not a
>> windows beneath. Full transparency IMHO needs composition manager.
>
> Aha! Finally I understand what is meant by pseudotransparency! This is
> what I want! Of course I don't want to see other windows underneath....
> does anyone, really? This is after all just eye candy... and seeing
> other windows would be far too disruptive to the eye. So.... this means
> I don't need xcompmgr and transset-df?? Just use application settings to
> achieve the transparency?

For terminal transparency you do not need this. Just tried

aterm -name aterm -title 'Terminal' -sl 3000 -tr +sb -si -sk -fade 70 
-sh 60 -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-2 -g 
130x50+20-0 -fg \#cecece

and it works.

> If it's a matter of the application, I guess I have to reconsider the
> old Konsole (KDE3.5 version) that I use and love. I guess I should try
> the newest Konsole (last one I tried was probably @ v4.3 or so, and I
> didn't like it, but it's probably better by now).

I do not know how konsole is configurable, but it could happen that it 
needs the kwin compositor. Or is there a setting for "pseudotransparency"?

> Dave

Adam Pribyl

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