Re: .NET vs. Java

"McClelland, Russ" <[email protected]> Fri, 16 Aug 2002 08:41:51 -0500
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Don't know of many articles that are un-biased.  The (very) few that I have
come across are just wrong (stating stuff like you can't do stateful
components in COM+ and other falicies regarding the J2EE platform as well),
or they trump up the importance of Entity Beans on J2EE.

As someone that has been a CIO and a developer, I would offer this advice:
If your hardware and OS is Wintel, choose MS tools.  If you don't, you will
never (no matter what other people will tell you) fully leverage the tools
you have already invested in.  And while you may be able to do lots of
things with J2EE, you will spend more time developing and leverage your
platform than you will with MS tools.  If you want to squeeze every penny
out of ROI, choose the tools that match your platform.  Once you choose a
platform, the chances of your enterprise adopting another one is slim, the
chances of your enterprise supplementing may be high, but the cost of
completely replacing systems is too high to worry about the WORA (myth).



-----Original Message-----
From: Schram, James [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DOTNET-ADVOCACY] .NET vs. Java


Hi All,

The company I am employed by (I've only been here a month) is un-decided on
what path to choose: .Net or Java.  The IT shop is mostly Microsoft (SQL
Server, VB, ASP).  Over the last year, the person I replaced was
investigating Java - to the point where some money was spent on purchasing
tools and developing the beginnings of a framework, but other than that, no
major financial investments have been made.  Since the individual with the
majority of java knowledge has left, the company is again revisiting the
decision.  The remaining IT staff is well versed with Microsoft tools and
technologies with very little exposure to Java.

I've Googled ".NET vs Java" with a lot of returns.  But a lot of what I have
read has come from biased sources (on both sides of the argument).

Can anyone recommend some articles or sites that attempt to treat the
subject without bias that list the criteria and how each platform measures
up?

Thanks,

Jim


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<DIV><SPAN class=020493913-16082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Don't
know of many articles that are un-biased.&nbsp; The (very) few that I have come
across are just wrong (stating stuff like you can't do stateful components in
COM+ and other falicies regarding the J2EE platform as well), or they trump up
the importance of Entity Beans on J2EE.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=020493913-16082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=020493913-16082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As
someone that has been a CIO and a developer, I would offer this advice:&nbsp; If
your hardware and OS is Wintel, choose MS tools.&nbsp; If you don't, you will
never (no matter what other people will tell you) fully leverage the tools you
have already invested in.&nbsp; And while you may be able to do lots of things
with J2EE, you will spend more time developing and leverage your platform than
you will with MS tools.&nbsp; If you want to squeeze every penny out of ROI,
choose the tools that match your platform.&nbsp; Once you choose a platform, the
chances of your enterprise adopting another one is slim, the chances of your
enterprise supplementing may be high, but the cost of completely replacing
systems is too high to worry about the WORA (myth).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=020493913-16082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=020493913-16082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Schram, James
  [mailto:[email protected]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 16,
  2002 8:04 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
  [email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> [DOTNET-ADVOCACY] .NET
  vs. Java<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi
  All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>The company I am
  employed by (I've only been here a month) is un-decided on what path to
  choose: .Net or Java.&nbsp; The IT shop is mostly Microsoft (SQL Server, VB,
  ASP).&nbsp; Over the last year, the person I replaced was investigating Java -
  to the point where some money was spent on purchasing tools and developing the
  beginnings of a framework, but other than that, no major financial investments
  have been made.&nbsp; Since the individual with the majority of java knowledge
  has left, the company is again revisiting the decision.&nbsp; The remaining IT
  staff is well versed with Microsoft tools and technologies with very little
  exposure to Java.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've Googled ".NET
  vs Java" with a lot of returns.&nbsp; But a lot of what I have read has come
  from biased sources (on both sides of the argument).&nbsp;
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone
  recommend some articles or sites that attempt to treat the subject without
  bias that list the criteria and how each platform measures
  up?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=929305112-16082002><FONT face=Arial
  size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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