re: coldfusion custom tags for NW (was: Flash......)

"alan hill" <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:16:50 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.windows.devel.netwindows
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> >   The reason why such thoughts preoccupy me is that a little while
> > ago I was going to create a few Coldfusion custom tags to wrap
> > around QForms and probably bits from various DHTML apis (eg. 1k
> > DHTML, Sarissa, netWindows), this was in response to an existing
> > tag-based api (Fusionscript) moving from open-source to commercial.
>
>Hrm. So do you think there would be value in something like this for
>ColdFusion developers that want to use NW?

Well I gave a UKCFUG presentation on Fusionscript (a sort of tag-based 
QForms, though it did a bit more in places) when it was open-source (it 
still is up to 1.2) and people *were* interested in it.  I think the 
commercial v2 product is way overpriced (there was some acrimony here!), but 
people have bought it as is my understanding.

As Coldfusion now has "Coldfusion Components", giving it some OO features at 
long last, actual Coldfusion custom tags are generally seen by the 
cf_enlightened as being mostly for HTML templating (and to a certain extent, 
for wrapping components for junior developers to use).

So yes, I think there would be interest.  Especially as NW is designed so it 
can be integrated into legacy applications.

>netWindows supports Konq. In fact, Konq is my main browser = )

This is good.  Maybe I'll warm to the idea again once it gets a bit nearer 
to 1.0!  The thing that I would like such a custom tagset to do is to be 
able to only send the appropriate javascript for the browser in question, if 
you get my meaning.  I don't know how much bandwidth this would save with 
NW, but I know the savings in something like Sarissa are huge.

>I would. In fact, I'd be pretty aghast.

Me too, I just wouldn't be shocked.

Of course, at that point, there will be a
>credible Open Source alternative to Flash et al. taking hold as the
>platform battleground moves.

Maybe.  But even if SVG matured tomorrow, Macromedia would still have AMF, 
XMLShadowing and all sorts of neat tricks.  They ain't waiting for anyone to 
catch up.

Yours,

Alan Hill

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