Re: JIRA

2008/7/10 James Kovacs <[email protected]>:

> Interesting about the performance, but let me toss in a few comments
> regarding perceptions... If we want to drive wider adoption of NH,
> LINQ-to-NHibernate has to be in NH.Core. There is a lot of interest in
> LINQ-to-NHibernate as Microsoft is pushing LINQ really hard. I understand
> your concerns with the current implementation, Fabio. I don't understand why
> we can't use the current implementation and swap it out later when
> ExprTree->SQL is working.


And at the same time I don't see which is the problem to have the actual
implementation of NHibernate.LINQ in contrib and download and use it from
there.


> Imagine if we took a hard line with NH Generics. They're not as performant.
> They can't go in Core. If you want to use generics, then download this extra
> package (NH.Contrib). We would have made adoption that much harder for the
> average developer. Same holds true of LINQ-to-NHibernate IMHO. If it isn't
> in NH.Core, fewer people will use it and (I suspect) many developers and
> managers will discount NH because it doesn't have "native" LINQ support like
> the Microsoft products.


Why ? Projects in NH-Contrib are not less important of NH-Core.
NHC have only a different idiosyncrasy and many NH committers are committers
in NHC too.
NH is not a commercial product... it is OSS and we can implement LINQ2NH in
the right way without any kind of commercial pressure.
About generic please... be careful we still not support generics in HQL,
generic userType, generic entity, generic colloctions have copy&paste (less
copy&paste in trunk)... do you really think NH support generics ?
or we are only giving the sensation we are suppoting it ? (like
multi-threading give the sensation that one CPU can do more than one thing
at the same times).
I don't remember where but if a well remember Oren said that he would like
to have something different than actual implementation of NHibernate.LINQ.
If who start the project say "I would like have a different implementation"
why don't try something different after one year of experience ?

I think/hope OSS is the place where developers give their best, for passion.
Passion is the force of OSS.
We are little, few, poor, dirty and ugly but with a great future.
-- 
Fabio Maulo

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