Re: Next release ?
"Fabio Maulo" <[email protected]> Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:48:52 -0300
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I forgot something [NH-1034] - HQL functions - parameters support Without it NHibernate.Spatial can't be released. 2008/9/9 Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> > Thanks Pierre for your response.So... next release planned will be 2.0.1 > (starting ASAP releasing Alpha1). > > Would be very useful if somebody can help fixing some significant bug as = we > have for MSSQL2005 dialect and CriteriaImpl. > > After 2.0.1 we can full dedicate (or, if you want, I will dedication full= ) > on trunk (2.1.0). > > Thanks again to help with decisions. > Bye. > Fabio. > > 2008/9/9 Pierre Henri Kuat=E9 <[email protected]> > > Hi, >> >> Since we are using JBoss versioning system: >> http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/JBossProductVersioning (and I don't see why w= e >> should stop doing so); we can follow their description of SP: >> >> "An SP (Service Pack) may follow a final release. A service pack (e.g. >> jboss-4.0.3.SP1) may be released when there are significant issues found >> after a final release to provide a bug fix release before the next sched= uled >> final release." >> >> Since I don't see any "significant" issue, I think a SP is unnecessary; >> instead, we can plan the next GA which could be 2.0.1.GA or 2.1.0.GAdepe= nding on how many changes are made. >> >> As for when it should be done, that's quite relative I guess. My rule of >> thumb would be something like: "Release the next version when there is >> something new that many users will benefit from". >> >> There are also a lot of unrelated elements: >> - We shouldn't release "too often" or "not often enough" >> - Releasing "forces" users to upgrade their code (even if it is just a >> xcopy) >> - Releasing gives a feeling of "being alive" and "moving forward" (which >> is a good thing) >> But these can get quite messy to take into consideration. >> >> Bottom line, IMHO, you can release when you feel that it should be done. >> If we hear complains, we can always change the pace :) >> >> Pierre Henri. >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 9/8/08, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> From: Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [NHibernate-development] Next release ? >> To: "the NHibernate development list" < >> [email protected]> >> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:22 PM >> >> >> That is the problem to choose what the next release is...In general >> peoples think that a SP is only for bug fixing but Microsoft give us a "= new >> concept" about what a ServicePack is... >> In our case we have bug-fixing and a new feature (we don't have >> breaking-change so probably is not a SP in the MS concept ;) ). >> ..... >> >> 2008/9/8 Dario Quintana <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi >>> My opinion: >>> Is more familiar to me see products with minor release (a.k.a: "we fixe= d >>> a lot of bugs or a big one") like: >>> - From Big release: X.0.0 >>> - To Minor release: X.0.1 >>> >>> Automatically in mind I supose this release is just for fix bugs of the >>> previous release. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrot= e: >>> >>>> Hi friends.So far this is a a list of fixed issues after NH2.0.0GA >>>> release >>>> ** Bug >>>> * [NH-1464] - C++ and Dispose method >>>> * [NH-1466] - current_session_context_class =3D thread_static doesn't = work >>>> * [NH-1473] - IsEqual and Compare broken in EntityType >>>> >>>> ** Patch >>>> * [NH-1034] - HQL functions - parameters support >>>> * [NH-1434] - Some unit test supplies non-character value to LIKE: not >>>> portable across every RDBMS >>>> * [NH-1435] - Explicitly order query in NH-1179 to ensure reliable >>>> results >>>> * [NH-1436] - Mapping of NH-1250 not portable across every RDBMS >>>> * [NH-1437] - Mapping of NH-1408 not portable across every RDBMS >>>> * [NH-1438] - Some queries from FooBarTest fixture are not portable >>>> across every RDBMS >>>> * [NH-1439] - Handle Dialect.GetIdentityColumnString(DbType type) >>>> * [NH-1459] - Sybase dialect >>>> * [NH-1462] - StringHelper.GetFullClassname fails to parse generic typ= es >>>> >>>> Is it early to release a ServicePack ? (only 7700 downloads of >>>> NH2.0.0.GA) >>>> Would the next version be a ServicePack or a minor release ? (NH-1034 >>>> is not a minor change) >>>> Do somebody check if we can fix something else before release a new >>>> version ? (especially bugs/possible-bug) >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dario Quintana >>> http://darioquintana.com.ar >>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Nhibernate-development mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fabio Maulo >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the wo= rld >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Nhibernate-development mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nhibernate-development mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development >> >> > > > -- > Fabio Maulo > --=20 Fabio Maulo ------=_Part_102494_10172528.1221000532110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <div dir=3D"ltr">Ah... I forgot something<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-sp= an" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px= ; white-space: pre-wrap; "> [NH-1034] - HQL functions - parameters support<= /span></div> <div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; f= ont-size: 12px; white-space: pre-wrap;">Without it NHibernate.Spatial can&#= 39;t be released.<br></span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2008/9/9 Fabio M= aulo <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">fabiomau= [email protected]</a>></span><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Pierre for your res= ponse.<div>So... next release planned will be 2.0.1 (starting ASAP releasin= g Alpha1).</div> <div><br></div><div>Would be very useful if somebody can help fixing some s= ignificant bug as we have for MSSQL2005 dialect and CriteriaImpl.</div> <div><br></div><div>After 2.0.1 we can full dedicate (or, if you want, I wi= ll dedication full) on trunk (2.1.0).</div><div><br></div><div>Th= anks again to help with decisions.</div><div>Bye.</div><div>Fabio.<br><br><= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> 2008/9/9 Pierre Henri Kuat=E9 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:phkua= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span><div><div></d= iv><div class=3D"Wj3C7c"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar= gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"> <tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit">Hi,<br><br>Since we ar= e using JBoss versioning system: <a href=3D"http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/JBos= sProductVersioning" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/JBossProdu= ctVersioning</a> (and I don't see why we should stop doing so); we can = follow their description of SP:<br> <br>"An SP (Service Pack) may follow a final release. A service pack (= e.g. jboss-4.0.3.SP1) may be released when there are significant issues fou= nd after a final release to provide a bug fix release before the next sched= uled final release."<br> <br>Since I don't see any "significant" issue, I think a SP i= s unnecessary; instead, we can plan the next GA which could be <a href=3D"h= ttp://2.0.1.GA" target=3D"_blank">2.0.1.GA</a> or <a href=3D"http://2.1.0.G= A" target=3D"_blank">2.1.0.GA</a> depending on how many changes are made.<b= r> <br>As for when it should be done, that's quite relative I guess. My ru= le of thumb would be something like: "Release the next version when th= ere is something new that many users will benefit from".<br><br>There = are also a lot of unrelated elements:<br>- We shouldn't release "too often" or "not= often enough"<br>- Releasing "forces" users to upgrade thei= r code (even if it is just a xcopy)<br>- Releasing gives a feeling of "= ;being alive" and "moving forward" (which is a good thing)<b= r> But these can get quite messy to take into consideration.<br><br>Bottom lin= e, IMHO, you can release when you feel that it should be done. If we hear c= omplains, we can always change the pace :)<br><br>Pierre Henri.<br><br> <br>--- On <b>Mon, 9/8/08, Fabio Maulo <i><<a href=3D"mailto:fabiomaulo@= gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></i></b> wrote:<br= ><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5p= x;padding-left:5px"> From: Fabio Maulo <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bl= ank">[email protected]</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NHibernate-development] = Next release ?<br>To: "the NHibernate development list" <<a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">[email protected]</a>><br> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:22 PM<div><div></div><div><br><br><div><= div dir=3D"ltr">That is the problem to choose what the next release is...<div>In general peoples think that a SP = is only for bug fixing but Microsoft give us a "new concept" abou= t what a ServicePack is...</div><div> In our case we have bug-fixing and a new feature (we don't have breakin= g-change so probably is not a SP in the MS concept ;) ).</div><div>.....</d= iv><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2008/9/8 Dario Quintana <span dir=3D= "ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi<div= ><br></div><div>My opinion:</div><div>Is more familiar to me see products w= ith minor release (a.k.a: "we fixed a lot of bugs or a big one") = like:</div> <div>- From Big release: X.0.0</div><div> - To Minor release: X.0.1</div><div><br></div><div>Automatically in mind I = supose this release is just for fix bugs of the previous release.</div><div= ><br></div><div><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Fabio Maulo <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel= =3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">fabiom= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi fri= ends.<div>So far this is a a list of fixed issues after NH2.0.0GA release</= div> <div><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">= ** Bug<br> * [NH-1464] - C++ and Dispose method<br> * [NH-1466] - cur= rent_session_context_class =3D thread_static doesn't work<br> * [NH-= 1473] - IsEqual and Compare broken in EntityType<br> <br>** Patch<br> * [NH-1034] - HQL functions - parameters support<br> = * [NH-1434] - Some unit test supplies non-character value to LIKE: not por= table across every RDBMS<br> * [NH-1435] - Explicitly order query in NH-= 1179 to ensure reliable results<br> * [NH-1436] - Mapping of NH-1250 not portable across every RDBMS<br> = * [NH-1437] - Mapping of NH-1408 not portable across every RDBMS<br> * = [NH-1438] - Some queries from FooBarTest fixture are not portable across every RDBMS<br> * [NH-1439] - Handle Dialect.GetIde= ntityColumnString(DbType type)<br> * [NH-1459] - Sybase dialect<br> *= [NH-1462] - StringHelper.GetFullClassname fails to parse generic types</sp= an><br clear=3D"all"> <br></div><div>Is it early to release a ServicePack ? (only 7700 downloads = of <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://NH2.0.0.GA" target=3D"_blank">NH2.0.0= .GA</a>)</div> <div>Would the next version be a ServicePack or a minor release ?= (<span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">NH-= 1034 is not a minor change)</span></div> <div><span style=3D"font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">Do somebody check = if we can fix something else before release a new version ? (especially bug= s/possible-bug)</span></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br> </div></div> -- <br>Dario Quintana<br><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://darioquintana.c= om.ar" target=3D"_blank">http://darioquintana.com.ar</a><br> </div></div> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= --<br> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's chal= lenge<br> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great = prizes<br> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world= <br> <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_i= d=3D100&url=3D/" target=3D"_blank">http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.p= hp?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/</a><br>_____________________________________= __________<br> Nhibernate-development mailing list<br> <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= .net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br= > <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nh= ibernate-development" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists= /listinfo/nhibernate-development</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Fabio Maulo<br> </div></div> </div><pre>----------------------------------------------------------------= ---------<br>This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Develop= er's<br>challenge<br>Build the coolest Linux based applications with Mo= blin SDK & win great<br> prizes<br>Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in= the world<br><a href=3D"http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id= =3D100&url=3D/" target=3D"_blank">http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.ph= p?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/</a></pre> <pre>_______________________________________________<br>Nhibernate-developm= ent mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= rge.net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>= <br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-developm= ent" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibern= ate-development</a><br></pre></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></t= able> <br> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------= --------<br> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's chal= lenge<br> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great = prizes<br> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world= <br> <a href=3D"http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url= =3D/" target=3D"_blank">http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D= 100&url=3D/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br> Nhibernate-development mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-developm= ent" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibern= ate-development</a><br> <br></blockquote></div></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Fabio M= aulo<br> </div></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Fabio Maulo<br> </div></div> ------=_Part_102494_10172528.1221000532110-- --===============2133296688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ --===============2133296688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Nhibernate-development mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development --===============2133296688==--