Re: Next release ?
"Fabio Maulo" <[email protected]> Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:47:24 -0300
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--===============1612690377== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_102490_5827490.1221000444342" ------=_Part_102490_5827490.1221000444342 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Pierre for your response.So... next release planned will be 2.0.1 (starting ASAP releasing Alpha1). Would be very useful if somebody can help fixing some significant bug as we have for MSSQL2005 dialect and CriteriaImpl. After 2.0.1 we can full dedicate (or, if you want, I will dedication full) on trunk (2.1.0). Thanks again to help with decisions. Bye. Fabio. 2008/9/9 Pierre Henri Kuat=E9 <[email protected]> > Hi, > > Since we are using JBoss versioning system: > http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/JBossProductVersioning (and I don't see why we > should stop doing so); we can follow their description of SP: > > "An SP (Service Pack) may follow a final release. A service pack (e.g. > jboss-4.0.3.SP1) may be released when there are significant issues found > after a final release to provide a bug fix release before the next schedu= led > final release." > > Since I don't see any "significant" issue, I think a SP is unnecessary; > instead, we can plan the next GA which could be 2.0.1.GA or 2.1.0.GAdepen= ding on how many changes are made. > > As for when it should be done, that's quite relative I guess. My rule of > thumb would be something like: "Release the next version when there is > something new that many users will benefit from". > > There are also a lot of unrelated elements: > - We shouldn't release "too often" or "not often enough" > - Releasing "forces" users to upgrade their code (even if it is just a > xcopy) > - Releasing gives a feeling of "being alive" and "moving forward" (which = is > a good thing) > But these can get quite messy to take into consideration. > > Bottom line, IMHO, you can release when you feel that it should be done. = If > we hear complains, we can always change the pace :) > > Pierre Henri. > > > --- On *Mon, 9/8/08, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>* wrote: > > From: Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NHibernate-development] Next release ? > To: "the NHibernate development list" < > [email protected]> > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:22 PM > > > That is the problem to choose what the next release is...In general > peoples think that a SP is only for bug fixing but Microsoft give us a "n= ew > concept" about what a ServicePack is... > In our case we have bug-fixing and a new feature (we don't have > breaking-change so probably is not a SP in the MS concept ;) ). > ..... > > 2008/9/8 Dario Quintana <[email protected]> > >> Hi >> My opinion: >> Is more familiar to me see products with minor release (a.k.a: "we fixed= a >> lot of bugs or a big one") like: >> - From Big release: X.0.0 >> - To Minor release: X.0.1 >> >> Automatically in mind I supose this release is just for fix bugs of the >> previous release. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrote= : >> >>> Hi friends.So far this is a a list of fixed issues after NH2.0.0GA >>> release >>> ** Bug >>> * [NH-1464] - C++ and Dispose method >>> * [NH-1466] - current_session_context_class =3D thread_static doesn't w= ork >>> * [NH-1473] - IsEqual and Compare broken in EntityType >>> >>> ** Patch >>> * [NH-1034] - HQL functions - parameters support >>> * [NH-1434] - Some unit test supplies non-character value to LIKE: not >>> portable across every RDBMS >>> * [NH-1435] - Explicitly order query in NH-1179 to ensure reliable >>> results >>> * [NH-1436] - Mapping of NH-1250 not portable across every RDBMS >>> * [NH-1437] - Mapping of NH-1408 not portable across every RDBMS >>> * [NH-1438] - Some queries from FooBarTest fixture are not portable >>> across every RDBMS >>> * [NH-1439] - Handle Dialect.GetIdentityColumnString(DbType type) >>> * [NH-1459] - Sybase dialect >>> * [NH-1462] - StringHelper.GetFullClassname fails to parse generic type= s >>> >>> Is it early to release a ServicePack ? (only 7700 downloads of >>> NH2.0.0.GA) >>> Would the next version be a ServicePack or a minor release ? (NH-1034 i= s >>> not a minor change) >>> Do somebody check if we can fix something else before release a new >>> version ? (especially bugs/possible-bug) >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dario Quintana >> http://darioquintana.com.ar >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= - >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Nhibernate-development mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development >> >> > > > -- > Fabio Maulo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the wor= ld > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/ > > _______________________________________________ > Nhibernate-development mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the wor= ld > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/ > _______________________________________________ > Nhibernate-development mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development > > --=20 Fabio Maulo ------=_Part_102490_5827490.1221000444342 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Pierre for your response.<div>So... next release pl= anned will be 2.0.1 (starting ASAP releasing Alpha1).</div><div><br></div><= div>Would be very useful if somebody can help fixing some significant bug a= s we have for MSSQL2005 dialect and CriteriaImpl.</div> <div><br></div><div>After 2.0.1 we can full dedicate (or, if you want, I wi= ll dedication full) on trunk (2.1.0).</div><div><br></div><div>Th= anks again to help with decisions.</div><div>Bye.</div><div>Fabio.<br><br><= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> 2008/9/9 Pierre Henri Kuat=E9 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:phkua= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1= ex;"><table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"> <tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit">Hi,<br><br>Since we ar= e using JBoss versioning system: <a href=3D"http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/JBos= sProductVersioning" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/JBossProdu= ctVersioning</a> (and I don't see why we should stop doing so); we can = follow their description of SP:<br> <br>"An SP (Service Pack) may follow a final release. A service pack (= e.g. jboss-4.0.3.SP1) may be released when there are significant issues fou= nd after a final release to provide a bug fix release before the next sched= uled final release."<br> <br>Since I don't see any "significant" issue, I think a SP i= s unnecessary; instead, we can plan the next GA which could be <a href=3D"h= ttp://2.0.1.GA" target=3D"_blank">2.0.1.GA</a> or <a href=3D"http://2.1.0.G= A" target=3D"_blank">2.1.0.GA</a> depending on how many changes are made.<b= r> <br>As for when it should be done, that's quite relative I guess. My ru= le of thumb would be something like: "Release the next version when th= ere is something new that many users will benefit from".<br><br>There = are also a lot of unrelated elements:<br>- We shouldn't release "too often" or "not= often enough"<br>- Releasing "forces" users to upgrade thei= r code (even if it is just a xcopy)<br>- Releasing gives a feeling of "= ;being alive" and "moving forward" (which is a good thing)<b= r> But these can get quite messy to take into consideration.<br><br>Bottom lin= e, IMHO, you can release when you feel that it should be done. If we hear c= omplains, we can always change the pace :)<br><br>Pierre Henri.<br><br> <br>--- On <b>Mon, 9/8/08, Fabio Maulo <i><<a href=3D"mailto:fabiomaulo@= gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></i></b> wrote:<br= ><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5p= x;padding-left:5px"> From: Fabio Maulo <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bl= ank">[email protected]</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NHibernate-development] = Next release ?<br>To: "the NHibernate development list" <<a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">[email protected]</a>><br> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 7:22 PM<div><div></div><div class=3D"Wj3C7= c"><br><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">That is the problem to choose what the next release is...<div>In general peoples think that a SP = is only for bug fixing but Microsoft give us a "new concept" abou= t what a ServicePack is...</div><div> In our case we have bug-fixing and a new feature (we don't have breakin= g-change so probably is not a SP in the MS concept ;) ).</div><div>.....</d= iv><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2008/9/8 Dario Quintana <span dir=3D= "ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi<div= ><br></div><div>My opinion:</div><div>Is more familiar to me see products w= ith minor release (a.k.a: "we fixed a lot of bugs or a big one") = like:</div> <div>- From Big release: X.0.0</div><div> - To Minor release: X.0.1</div><div><br></div><div>Automatically in mind I = supose this release is just for fix bugs of the previous release.</div><div= ><br></div><div><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Fabio Maulo <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel= =3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">fabiom= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi fri= ends.<div>So far this is a a list of fixed issues after NH2.0.0GA release</= div> <div><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">= ** Bug<br> * [NH-1464] - C++ and Dispose method<br> * [NH-1466] - cur= rent_session_context_class =3D thread_static doesn't work<br> * [NH-= 1473] - IsEqual and Compare broken in EntityType<br> <br>** Patch<br> * [NH-1034] - HQL functions - parameters support<br> = * [NH-1434] - Some unit test supplies non-character value to LIKE: not por= table across every RDBMS<br> * [NH-1435] - Explicitly order query in NH-= 1179 to ensure reliable results<br> * [NH-1436] - Mapping of NH-1250 not portable across every RDBMS<br> = * [NH-1437] - Mapping of NH-1408 not portable across every RDBMS<br> * = [NH-1438] - Some queries from FooBarTest fixture are not portable across every RDBMS<br> * [NH-1439] - Handle Dialect.GetIde= ntityColumnString(DbType type)<br> * [NH-1459] - Sybase dialect<br> *= [NH-1462] - StringHelper.GetFullClassname fails to parse generic types</sp= an><br clear=3D"all"> <br></div><div>Is it early to release a ServicePack ? (only 7700 downloads = of <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://NH2.0.0.GA" target=3D"_blank">NH2.0.0= .GA</a>)</div> <div>Would the next version be a ServicePack or a minor release ?= (<span style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">NH-= 1034 is not a minor change)</span></div> <div><span style=3D"font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap">Do somebody check = if we can fix something else before release a new version ? (especially bug= s/possible-bug)</span></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br> </div></div> -- <br>Dario Quintana<br><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://darioquintana.c= om.ar" target=3D"_blank">http://darioquintana.com.ar</a><br> </div></div> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= --<br> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's chal= lenge<br> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great = prizes<br> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world= <br> <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_i= d=3D100&url=3D/" target=3D"_blank">http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.p= hp?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/</a><br>_____________________________________= __________<br> Nhibernate-development mailing list<br> <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= .net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br= > <a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nh= ibernate-development" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists= /listinfo/nhibernate-development</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Fabio Maulo<br> </div></div> </div><pre>----------------------------------------------------------------= ---------<br>This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Develop= er's<br>challenge<br>Build the coolest Linux based applications with Mo= blin SDK & win great<br> prizes<br>Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in= the world<br><a href=3D"http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id= =3D100&url=3D/" target=3D"_blank">http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.ph= p?banner_id=3D100&url=3D/</a></pre> <pre>_______________________________________________<br>Nhibernate-developm= ent mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= rge.net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>= <br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-developm= ent" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibern= ate-development</a><br></pre></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></t= able> <br> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------= --------<br> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's chal= lenge<br> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great = prizes<br> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world= <br> <a href=3D"http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D100&url= =3D/" target=3D"_blank">http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=3D= 100&url=3D/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br> Nhibernate-development mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Nhibernate-= [email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-developm= ent" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibern= ate-development</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Fabio Maulo<br> </div></div> ------=_Part_102490_5827490.1221000444342-- --===============1612690377== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ --===============1612690377== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Nhibernate-development mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nhibernate-development --===============1612690377==--