Re: Re: [ecco_pro] Should there be a single consolidated Ecco hub for general discussion?
"Don Johnson
[email protected] [eccopro]" <
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Thu, 31 Oct 2019 22:57:16 -0700
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Hi Katie, good to see you.
There is an issue we need to resolve before we try a transfer like that.
Will let you know.
--
Maranatha!
Pastor Don Johnson, Jer. 33.3
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Grace Baptist Church of Victoria (Independent)
2731 Matson Rd, Victoria, BC V9B 4M5
ch. 250.474.7283 hm. 778.365.1611
fx. 778.365.1612 cell. 250.889.9789
www.gbcvic.org
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On 10/31/2019 12:23 PM, Katherine Fritz [email protected] [eccopro] wrote:
>
>
> I've been off in the ether for a very long time but I am involved in
> several groups that are transferring to Groups.io, which I see is
> happening here. Are there plans regarding the message archive?
> Because of the huge surge of transfer requests, it would cost $220
> (one-time) to transfer the existing message archive, files, etc., from
> Yahoogroups to Groups.io. I've been through this process before as a
> group moderator, and it works very well and very smoothly. Group
> members pitched in at $10 a pop to the moderator's Paypal account to
> cover the fee, and raised it in a day. If there is similar interest
> here, that's something to consider, especially to maintain the
> continuity of the message archive - lots of history that would be a
> shame to lose
>
> best regards,
> Katie (still a co-moderator, albeit MIA for a long time)
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:25 PM Don Johnson [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [eccopro] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> for the active members here, we are setting up a single group at
> groups.io <http://groups.io>
>
> Here is the link:
> https://groups.io/g/EccoPro <https://groups..io/g/EccoPro>
>
> We may send out invites to all the members here, but if you want
> to jump in and join up before the invite, go ahead!
>
> eventually I think we will have our files all uploaded also.
>
> It's a work in progress, so bear with us!
>
>
> --
>
> Maranatha!
>
> Pastor Don Johnson, Jer. 33.3
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Grace Baptist Church of Victoria (Independent)
> 2731 Matson Rd, Victoria, BC V9B 4M5
> ch. 250.474.7283 hm. 778.365.1611
> fx. 778.365.1612 cell. 250.889.9789
>
> www.gbcvic.org <http://www.gbcvic.org>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On 10/29/2019 1:05 PM, l_kofod wrote:
>> I've lurked on this listsrv for years; happy to have found it
>> after upgrading to Windows7 and finding the old 32-bit installer
>> no longer worked. I did buy services from Mister Dohmann and was
>> happy to do it since his installers did work for me on Win7 and
>> Win10. His death was a loss.
>>
>> I'm grateful to learn that we have at least two administrators on
>> this list who are still active and so can transition us to a new
>> environment. I'll join whatever mechanism is agreed to; however,
>> advocate against mobile-centric platforms like WhatApp for
>> FaceBook. Most ECCO users are desktop users, so using a listserv
>> that requires a smartphone or tablet to access would decrease
>> engagement.
>>
>> It's likely we'd need two different environments: a platform for
>> the discussions and a location to share files.
>>
>> Here are some listserv-style platforms to consider .
>>
>> - Groups.io https://groups.io/static/transfer
>> Will import YahooGroups, but requires a one-year Premium
>> Membership for which is $110. If one of the current admins want
>> to take this on, we could do a call for funding and I would
>> contribute.
>>
>> - Mobilize.io https://www.mobilize.io/solutions/replace-a-listserv
>> Has a free version; unclear if they are able to import a Yahoo
>> group archive.
>>
>> - Reddit https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-guidelines
>> Unlikely to go out of business anytime soon and gives the
>> community who join the ability to up and down-vote unhelpful
>> threads. Unclear if the archive can up uploaded.
>>
>> - Google Groups https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview
>> Sadly, they don't appear to be interested in creating a way to
>> transfer the Yahoo data, so the archive will have to go, see
>> https://support.google.com/a/thread/16986960?hl=en however they
>> are also unlikely to delete their groups.
>>
>> Data Platform
>> - GitHub https://github.com/pricing#feature-comparison
>> I am unsure we can upload our old files to this environment if
>> the NetScape copyright is still in effect. I seem to recall the
>> code went opens-source at some point, but that could just be
>> wishful remembering on my part
>>
>>
>
>
>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Katie, good to see
you.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">There is an issue we
need to resolve before we try a transfer like that. Will let you
know.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
-- <br>
<br>
Maranatha!<br>
<br>
Pastor Don Johnson, Jer. 33.3<br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
Grace Baptist Church of Victoria (Independent)<br>
2731 Matson Rd, Victoria, BC V9B 4M5<br>
ch. 250.474.7283 hm. 778.365.1611<br>
fx. 778.365.1612 cell. 250.889.9789<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.gbcvic.org">www.gbcvic.org</a><br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/2019 12:23 PM, Katherine Fritz
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [eccopro] wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I've been off in the ether for a very long time but
I am involved in several groups that are transferring to
Groups.io, which I see is happening here. Are there plans
regarding the message archive? Because of the huge surge of
transfer requests, it would cost $220 (one-time) to transfer the
existing message archive, files, etc., from Yahoogroups to
Groups.io. I've been through this process before as a group
moderator, and it works very well and very smoothly. Group
members pitched in at $10 a pop to the moderator's Paypal
account to cover the fee, and raised it in a day. If there is
similar interest here, that's something to consider, especially
to maintain the continuity of the message archive - lots of
history that would be a shame to lose
<div><br>
</div>
<div>best regards,</div>
<div>Katie (still a co-moderator, albeit MIA for a long time)</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:25
PM Don Johnson <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" moz="true">[email protected]</a>
[eccopro] <<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" moz="true">[email protected]</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">for the
active members here, we are setting up a single
group at <a href="http://groups.io" target="_blank" moz="true">groups.io</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Here is
the link: </font><br>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://groups..io/g/EccoPro" target="_blank" moz="true">https://groups.io/g/EccoPro</a><br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">We may
send out invites to all the members here, but if
you want to jump in and join up before the invite,
go ahead!</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">eventually
I think we will have our files all uploaded also.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">It's a
work in progress, so bear with us!</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
-- <br>
<br>
Maranatha!<br>
<br>
Pastor Don Johnson, Jer. 33.3<br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
Grace Baptist Church of Victoria (Independent)<br>
2731 Matson Rd, Victoria, BC V9B 4M5<br>
ch. 250.474.7283 hm. 778.365.1611<br>
fx. 778.365.1612 cell. 250.889.9789<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.gbcvic.org" target="_blank" moz="true">www.gbcvic.org</a><br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
<br>
</font><br>
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<div>On 10/29/2019 1:05 PM, l_kofod wrote:<br>
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<div>I've lurked on this listsrv for years; happy to
have found it after upgrading to Windows7 and
finding the old 32-bit installer no longer
worked. I did buy services from Mister Dohmann
and was happy to do it since his installers did
work for me on Win7 and Win10. His death was a
loss. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm grateful to learn that we have at least two
administrators on this list who are still active
and so can transition us to a new environment.
I'll join whatever mechanism is agreed to;
however, advocate against mobile-centric platforms
like WhatApp for FaceBook. Most ECCO users are
desktop users, so using a listserv that requires a
smartphone or tablet to access would decrease
engagement. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It's likely we'd need two different
environments: a platform for the discussions and a
location to share files. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here are some listserv-style platforms to
consider .</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Groups.io <a rel="nofollow" href="https://groups.io/static/transfer" target="_blank" moz="true">https://groups.io/static/transfer</a><br>
</div>
<div>Will import YahooGroups, but requires a
one-year Premium Membership for which is $110. If
one of the current admins want to take this on, we
could do a call for funding and I would
contribute.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Mobilize.io <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.mobilize.io/solutions/replace-a-listserv" target="_blank" moz="true">https://www.mobilize.io/solutions/replace-a-listserv</a></div>
<div>Has a free version; unclear if they are able to
import a Yahoo group archive. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Reddit <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-guidelines" target="_blank" moz="true">https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-guidelines</a></div>
<div>Unlikely to go out of business anytime soon and
gives the community who join the ability to up and
down-vote unhelpful threads. Unclear if the
archive can up uploaded. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- Google Groups <a rel="nofollow" href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview" target="_blank" moz="true">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview</a></div>
<div>Sadly, they don't appear to be interested in
creating a way to transfer the Yahoo data, so the
archive will have to go, see <a rel="nofollow" href="https://support.google.com/a/thread/16986960?hl=en" target="_blank" moz="true">https://support.google.com/a/thread/16986960?hl=en</a>
however they are also unlikely to delete their
groups. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Data Platform</div>
<div> </div>
<div>- GitHub <a rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/pricing#feature-comparison" target="_blank" moz="true">https://github.com/pricing#feature-comparison</a></div>
<div>I am unsure we can upload our old files to this
environment if the NetScape copyright is still in
effect. I seem to recall the code went
opens-source at some point, but that could just be
wishful remembering on my part
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
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font:115% monospace;
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font-family: Verdana;
}
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color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
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color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
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font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
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