Re: Windows10

"GC Gui4Cli [email protected] [gui4cli]" <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:00:48 +0200
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hi Fer,

You were right - its the security measures.

After trying some desperate moves I read in forums, I found that all you
had to do was change a setting in the project properties (I use VSE13), so
the linker sets the "requestedExecutionLevel" in the manifest file to
"asInvoker" instead of "requireAdministrator" which is the default.

I don't know what other repercussions this may have so I'll try it for a
while.

What I don't understand is what kind of security this provides if someone
can just bypass it so easily.

Dimitris



On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:33 PM, GC Gui4Cli <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think its probably to do with that, but its something I did, not a
> system setting, because drag and drop works up to version 19.39, then
> suddenly stops after version 19.40.
>
> Maybe some compiler setting... The problem is that it doesn't react at
> all, not even when I look with the debugger, like I didn't register the
> interfaces, which I know I did because I can see them working within g4c.
> Makes it difficult to find because I don't know where to start :(
>
> Dimitris
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:58 PM, [email protected] [gui4cli] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dimitris,
>>
>>
>> The drag/drop problem is caused by the extreme security measures
>>
>> of windows 10. You have to disable user account control completely.
>>
>> So not only setting the user account control slider to a minimum (which
>>
>> used to work fine on XP and Win7) but also setting enableLUA in the
>>
>> registry to 0 (default 1). The key is:
>>
>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Currentversion\Policies\System
>>
>> The big problem with this that you cannot advise this to your users
>>
>> because you don't know what the exact consequences are when
>>
>> disabling UAC completely. One thing I do know is that you have to
>>
>> restart your PC to let the change take effect. Bad enough.
>>
>>
>> Maybe one day M$ will come to their senses.
>>
>>
>> fer
>>
>>
>>
>>=20
>>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">hi Fer,<div><br></div><div>You were right - its the securi=
ty measures.</div><div><br></div><div>After trying some desperate moves I r=
ead in forums, I found that all you had to do was change a setting in the p=
roject properties (I use VSE13), so the linker sets the &quot;requestedExec=
utionLevel&quot; in the manifest file to &quot;asInvoker&quot; instead of &=
quot;requireAdministrator&quot; which is the default.</div><div><br></div><=
div>I don&#39;t know what other repercussions this may have so I&#39;ll try=
 it for a while.</div><div><br></div><div>What I don&#39;t understand is wh=
at kind of security this provides if someone can just bypass it so easily.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2=
016 at 4:33 PM, GC Gui4Cli <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gui4cli@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
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ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think its probably to do wit=
h that, but its something I did, not a system setting, because drag and dro=
p works up to version 19.39, then suddenly stops after version 19.40.<div><=
br></div><div>Maybe some compiler setting... The problem is that it doesn&#=
39;t react at all, not even when I look with the debugger, like I didn&#39;=
t register the interfaces, which I know I did because I can see them workin=
g within g4c. Makes it difficult to find because I don&#39;t know where to =
start :(<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dimitris<br></div><div><br></div></di=
v><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
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nt control slider to a minimum (which</p><p>used to work fine on XP and Win=
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