Re: Speed

Since I've been dogging Silverlight, I'll mention that this guy's site is
kind of impressive, slick yet not annoying:
http://jeffblankenburg.com/default.aspx

Seems like he might be worth reading as well.  Though right now I'm still
almost as pessimistic about MS as Eckel:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=262565

Mike

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

> > I'll send your list to Ballmer. :)
>
> I appreciate that.  :)  But...thousands of programmers hitching their
> development wagon to the whims of one single business man seems just wrong
> these days.
>
> Mike
>
>  On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Brad Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I'll send your list to Ballmer. :)
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>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Just make it faster please.  What of any interest has been added since
>>> 2003?
>>>
>>> Everything new added to C# was already better in JavaScript and other
>>> languages, and while things like generics are good, they are so very noisy
>>> and ugly in C#.  Everything new added to ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> was
>>> overshadowed by Ajax.  Everything new added to VS was overshadowed by
>>> ReSharper and others.
>>>
>>> Some new things are good.  The addition of F#, Ruby, and Python to the VS
>>> world is exciting, though personally I'd give a much higher priority to
>>> adding a little intellisense and refactoring support for JavaScript, since
>>> that's what we have immediate need for.  MVC is good.
>>>
>>> If you really want to give us new stuff, then give us something exciting,
>>> like the iPhone!  We want a way to send our own ideas out into the mobile
>>> world, and maybe even make some coin.
>>>
>>> And just get rid of IE, entirely.  I'm serious, it's an active negative
>>> for the entire planet.
>>>
>>>  Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Brad Wilson <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>  "Make it faster" or "add new features"?
>>>>
>>>> Pick one. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Joe O'Leary <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>>>>  Unfortunately VS2008 is a dog, even on fast machines, IMO.  Worse
>>>>> than 2005 which was worse than 2003.  I really wish they would improve the
>>>>> performance for once.  If the new one is changing a lot, it is probably
>>>>> going to be an even bigger dog
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >From: Anna-Jayne Metcalfe <[email protected]>
>>>>> >Sent: Jul 10, 2009 9:33 PM
>>>>> >To: [email protected]
>>>>> >Subject: RE: [OT] Speed
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Hi Mike,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Is Windows 7 going to be faster than XP?  Is VS 2010 going to be
>>>>> faster
>>>>> >than the preceding versions?  I'm seeing very positive reviews of
>>>>> these new
>>>>> >products, but nobody ever talks about speed, which is the only thing I
>>>>> care
>>>>> >about.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >If our testing is anything to go by, Win7 is comparable to XP in
>>>>> performance
>>>>> >and if other reports are accurate is certainly capable of running on a
>>>>> >smaller footprint than Vista. It's certainly worth a look if you're
>>>>> bringing
>>>>> >in new machines (I'm not a fan of OS upgrades).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >VS2010 is another matter. The verdict is not yet in on the new WPF
>>>>> based
>>>>> >editor, but my gut feeling (and based on what I've seen from beta
>>>>> >installations) I'd say that VS2010 is going to have a significantly
>>>>> bigger
>>>>> >footprint than VS2008, and the volume of change in this release may
>>>>> have
>>>>> >some consequences in the RTM.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >It has always seemed to me that Visual Studio releases follow a
>>>>> two-step
>>>>> >pattern - one release where they try to change too much (VS5, VS2002,
>>>>> >VS2005) followed by which consolidates the changes of the previous
>>>>> release
>>>>> >(VS6, VS2003, VS2008). My instincts tell me that VS2010 may
>>>>> (unfortunately)
>>>>> >be in the former camp. The plus side of that is of course that the
>>>>> next
>>>>> >release after VS2010 - call it VS2012 for now - will probably be a
>>>>> good one.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I can't help with Silverlight etc. I'm afraid - I'm a native C++ dev.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Cheers,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Anna x
>>>>> >
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