Re: Editor for Unix
"Stuart Laughlin (Lists)" <[email protected]> Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:22:58 -0600
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--bcaec501c0cc3b9f2404d058e8c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I'd say that's definitely an OS / DE / keymap problem. I'd never actually tried it before, but fwiw I just turned off numlock, and the arrows on my numeric keypad work properly (arch linux / KDE). So at least you know it's possible. :) If I can find any good resources for getting this setup, I'll send them your way. --Stuart On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Curt Hagenlocher <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Thanks for the suggestion. It got me back to playing around a bit and it > turns out that I have misremembered my problem. Every editor I've used > under any desktop environment in Linux does not handle the arrow keys on > the numeric keypad (aka "Num Lock off") the same way that Windows does. So > maybe this is an OS or DE issue rather than an editor issue? > > It's weird to me that a program would treat the arrow keys on the numeric > keypad would work differently than the non-keypad arrow keys -- but then, I > have trouble understanding why most people actually have a use for the > numbers on the numeric keypad... > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Stuart Laughlin (Lists) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Well, first, you should quit being old and lazy and reacquaint yourself >> with emacs (or better yet, learn Vim!). :P >> >> Then, to actually answer your question, it somewhat depends on your DE, >> but I think you'd be quite happy with the "default" editor. So that would >> be kate on KDE or gedit (I think that's still the one..?) on >> Ubuntu/Unity/gnome/etc. They tend to be plugin-based, and there's usually a >> great set included by default, for your experimentation. >> >> >> Hope that helps! >> >> --Stuart >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Curt Hagenlocher <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Twenty years ago, I was totally fluent in Emacs. Twenty years is a long >>> time, and I've gotten quite accustomed to the basics shared by all >>> Windows-based editors: control-arrow to move between words, shift-arrow to >>> highlight, control-C, control-V, control-X, etc. I'm sure I can setup the >>> appropriate key bindings in Emacs, but I'm old and lazy and this is not >>> what I want to be playing with now. So is there some other text editor I >>> can just download and immediately be productive in? >>> >>> The OS is Linux not OS/X, and the text being edited is C++. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --bcaec501c0cc3b9f2404d058e8c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>Yes, I'd say that's definitely an OS / DE / keymap problem= . I'd never actually tried it before, but fwiw I just turned off numloc= k, and the arrows on my numeric keypad work properly (arch linux / KDE). So= at least you know it's possible. :) <br> <br>If I can find any good resources for getting this setup, I'll send = them your way.<br><br><br>--Stuart<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><d= iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Curt Hagenlocher <= span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla= nk">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> <br><br> <div>Thanks for the suggestion. It got me back to playing around a bit and = it turns out that I have misremembered my problem. Every editor I've us= ed under any desktop environment in Linux does not handle the arrow keys on= the numeric keypad (aka "Num Lock off") the same way that Window= s does. So maybe this is an OS or DE issue rather than an editor issue?</di= v> <div>=A0</div><div>It's weird to me that a program would treat the arro= w keys on the numeric keypad would work differently than the non-keypad arr= ow keys -- but then, I have trouble understanding why most people actually = have a use for the numbers on the numeric keypad...<br> <br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 8, = 2012 at 6:58 AM, Stuart Laughlin (Lists) <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m= ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><= /span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(204,204,20= 4);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> <br><br> Well, first, you should quit being old and lazy and reacquaint yourself wit= h emacs (or better yet, learn Vim!). :P<br><br>Then, to actually answer you= r question, it somewhat depends on your DE, but I think you'd be quite = happy with the "default" editor. So that would be kate on KDE or = gedit (I think that's still the one..?) on Ubuntu/Unity/gnome/etc. They= tend to be plugin-based, and there's usually a great set included by d= efault, for your experimentation.<br> <br><br>Hope that helps!<br><br>--Stuart<div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_e= xtra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Cu= rt Hagenlocher <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left-color:rgb(204,204,20= 4);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> <br><br> <div>Twenty years ago, I was totally fluent in Emacs. Twenty years is a lon= g time, and I've gotten quite accustomed to the basics shared by all Wi= ndows-based editors: control-arrow to move between words, shift-arrow to hi= ghlight, control-C, control-V, control-X, etc. I'm sure I can setup the= appropriate key bindings in Emacs, but I'm old and lazy and this is no= t what I want to be playing with now. So is there some other=A0text editor = I can just download and immediately be productive in?</div> <div>=A0</div><div>The OS is Linux not OS/X, and the text being edited is C= ++.</div><div>=A0</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-Curt</div> <br> =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <br> <div style=3D"color:white;" width=3D"1"></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div> <br> =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <br> <div style=3D"color:white;" width=3D"1"></div></div></div> </div></blockquote></div><br> <br> =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;"></div> </div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20 <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px= ;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1= px solid #EAEAEA " > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/win_tech_off_topic/post;_ylc=3DX3oD= MTJxaDhlamprBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BG1= zZ0lkAzYwNDg2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM1NDk4MDE4MA--?act=3Dreply&m= essageNum=3D60486">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%5BOT%= 5D%20Editor%20for%20Unix" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3D= Re%3A%20%5BOT%5D%20Editor%20for%20Unix" style=3D"text-decoration: none; col= or: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/win_tech_off_topic/pos= t;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlODkxZ2JmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNz= A1MDA2NjY5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM1NDk4MDE4MA--" style=3D"text-d= ecoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #2D50FD; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA= ; " > <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/win_te= ch_off_topic/message/60483;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2azJzZThzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkA= zM3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BG1zZ0lkAzYwNDg2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGME= c3RpbWUDMTM1NDk4MDE4MAR0cGNJZAM2MDQ4Mw--" style=3D"text-decoration: none; c= olor: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (4) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tran= sform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inl= ine;"> </ul> =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/win_tech_off_topic;_ylc=3DX3oD= MTJlMmFvdXFpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BHN= lYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM1NDk4MDE4MA--" style=3D"text-decoration: no= ne;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> =20=20 <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkZWlqaXAyBF9TAzk3NDc2NT= kwBGdycElkAzM3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZ= QMxMzU0OTgwMTgw" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/a/i/u= s/yg/logo/us.gif" height=3D"15" width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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