RE: network connection enumeration
"'Richard Howells' [email protected] [win_tech_off_topic]" <[email protected]> Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:42:44 +0100
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At a minimum it needs to = send responses back to the right place. =20 If you tell us what the nature of the connection is you might get better ta= rgeted advice. =20 Best wishes, =20 Richard Howells <mailto:Richard-yP/[email protected]> Richard-yP/[email protected] <http://www.dynamisys.co.uk/> www.dynamisys.co.uk =20 (L) +44 (0) 1793 731225 (M) +44 (0) 7769 266522 =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m working in India until 4Decem= ber. It=E2=80=99s unlikely that I will be able to take calls. Wisest is t= o send me an email. =20 From: [email protected] [mailto:win_tech_off_topic@yahoogr= oups.com]=20 Sent: 20 August 2016 15:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OT] network connection enumeration =20 =20=20 The network machines connect to the server that the target program is runni= ng on. while the target program is running, a program on the network machin= e connects to the program on the server and sends it information, tries to = get info about the program on the server (operational state, determine whet= her the program on the server still exists, etc...)=20 =20 Is there a way for the program on the server to know when one of the progra= ms on the network machine is accessing it? I was thinking about building an= internal firewall into the target program on the server, but wouldn't that= simply block or allow a connection from across the network based on an IP = address of the network machine? Would that really be able to flag when a co= nnection to the target program was made?=20 =20 On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Christopher Tavares cct-/[email protected]= m [win_tech_off_topic] <[email protected]> wrote: =20=20 OK, so you're not connecting to the app, but instead connecting to a networ= k share on the same machine the app happens to be running on? That makes it really tough, those sort of things are deliberately isolated = by the OS. You might be able to do something at the device driver level? Out of my dep= th here. -Chris =20 On Aug 18, 2016 8:38 AM, "John Smith [email protected] [win_tech_off_topic]= " <[email protected]> wrote: =20=20 Hi Guys Thanks for the reply. I know what you mean about the lack of activity on = the list recently. It's been forever since I've seen much activity here. An= yway, the connection type is what ever is used by the OS to connect to a ne= twork share. As far as I know it's not specifically socketed unless the OS = does something behind the scenes.=20 =20 -John =20 =20 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Steve Johnson [email protected] [win_te= ch_off_topic] <[email protected]> wrote: =20=20 There is almost never any traffic on this list. In fact, I had forgotten th= at I was still subscribed. =20 What kind of connection are you talking about? Socket? Share? =20 --Steve Johnson =20 --Steve Johnson =20 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:18 AM, John Smith [email protected] [win_tech_of= f_topic] <[email protected]> wrote: =20 Hi Guys, =20 is there a way to enumerate the connections to a program located on a net= work server?=20 Here is what I have. I have a program located on my network server and othe= r machines on the network connect to the server and complete various tasks = after a connection to that program is established. Is there a way for the p= rogram on the server to know when a connection to it has been created by so= meone on the network? Thanks for any help, pointers to info etc... =20 =20 -John=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0118_01D1FB01.E1FC9160 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"= font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">>></span> a program on the network m= achine connects to the program on the server and sends it information,<span= style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o></o></span></p><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">We still don=E2=80= =99t know how this happens.=C2=A0 <o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">= <span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><p = class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Is this= a pair of programs that already exist?=C2=A0 Or a pair that you plan to wr= ite, or commission?<o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"= font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor= mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">A server program (your= target program) has to know, or be able to find out, some information abou= t any incoming connection.=C2=A0 At a minimum it needs to send responses ba= ck to the right place.<o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style= =3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">If you tell us wha= t the nature of the connection is you might get better targeted advice.<o><= /o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:= #1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style= =3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Best wishes,<o></o></span></p><p class= =3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o> </o= ></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1= F497D;">Richard Howells<o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style= =3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><a href=3D"mailto:Richard-yP/[email protected]= .uk"><span style=3D"color:blue;">Richard-yP/[email protected]</span></a><o></o><= /span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4= 97D;"><a href=3D"http://www.dynamisys.co.uk/"><span style=3D"color:blue;">w= ww.dynamisys.co.uk</span></a><o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span= style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><p class= =3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">(L) +44 = (0) 1793 731225<o></o></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font= -size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">(M) +44 (0) 7769 266522 =E2=80=93 I=E2=80= =99m working in India until 4December.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s unlikely that I w= ill be able to take calls.=C2=A0 Wisest is to send me an email.<o></o></spa= n></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1= F497D;"><o> </o></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-top:solid #B5C4DF= 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"= EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty= le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> [email protected] [mailto:win_te= [email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> 20 August 2016 15:51<br><b>T= o:</b> [email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OT] netwo= rk connection enumeration<o></o></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l"><o> </o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o></o></p><div id=3D"ygr= p-mlmsg"><div id=3D"ygrp-msg"><div id=3D"ygrp-text"><div><div><p class=3D"M= soNormal">The network machines connect to the server that the target progra= m is running on. while the target program is running, a program on the netw= ork machine connects to the program on the server and sends it information,= tries to get info about the program on the server (operational state, dete= rmine whether the program on the server still exists, etc...) <o></o></p></= div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o> </o></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso= Normal">Is there a way for the program on the server to know when one of th= e programs on the network machine is accessing it? I was thinking about bui= lding an internal firewall into the target program on the server, but would= n't that simply block or allow a connection from across the network based o= n an IP address of the network machine? Would that really be able to flag w= hen a connection to the target program was made? <o></o></p></div></div><di= v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o> </o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Th= u, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Christopher Tavares <a href=3D"mailto:cct@tava= resstudios.com">cct-/[email protected]</a> [win_tech_off_topic] <<a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">win_tech_o= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<o></o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l" style=3D"background:white;"> <o></o></p><div><div><div><p style=3D= "background:white;">OK, so you're not connecting to the app, but instead co= nnecting to a network share on the same machine the app happens to be runni= ng on?<o></o></p><p style=3D"background:white;">That makes it really tough,= those sort of things are deliberately isolated by the OS.<o></o></p><p sty= le=3D"background:white;">You might be able to do something at the device dr= iver level? Out of my depth here.<o></o></p><p style=3D"background:white;">= -Chris<o></o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o= > </o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">On A= ug 18, 2016 8:38 AM, "John Smith <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [win_tech_off_topic]" <<a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">win_tec= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<o></o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo= rmal" style=3D"background:white;"> <o></o></p><div><div><div><div><di= v><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">Hi Guys<o></o></p></di= v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"> Thanks for= the reply. I know what you mean about the lack of activity on the list rec= ently. It's been forever since I've seen much activity here. Anyway, the co= nnection type is what ever is used by the OS to connect to a network share.= As far as I know it's not specifically socketed unless the OS does somethi= ng behind the scenes. <o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D= "background:white;"><o> </o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl= e=3D"background:white;">-John<o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s= tyle=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoN= ormal" style=3D"background:white;">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Steve = Johnson <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">sjjohnson@= pobox.com</a> [win_tech_off_topic] <<a href=3D"mailto:win_tech_off_topic= @yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&= gt; wrote:<o></o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;= "> <o></o></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style= =3D"background:white;"><span>There is almost never any traffic on this list= . In fact, I had forgotten that I was still subscribed.<o></o></span></p></= div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><span><o> = </o></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;= "><span>What kind of connection are you talking about? Socket? Share?<o></o= ></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><= span><o> </o></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"bac= kground:white;"><span>--Steve Johnson<o></o></span></p></div></div><div><p = class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><br clear=3D"all"><o></o></= p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white= ;"><o> </o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:w= hite;">--Steve Johnson<o></o></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p= class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p><div><p c= lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:1= 8 AM, John Smith <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">js5= [email protected]</a> [win_tech_off_topic] <<a href=3D"mailto:win_tech_off_= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= </a>> wrote:<o></o></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-botto= m:12.0pt;background:white;"><o> </o></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma= l" style=3D"background:white;">Hi Guys,<o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms= oNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p></div><div><p class= =3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"> is there a way to enumera= te the connections to a program located on a network server? <o></o></p></d= iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">Here is what I h= ave. I have a program located on my network server and other machines on th= e network connect to the server and complete various tasks after a connecti= on to that program is established. Is there a way for the program on the se= rver to know when a connection to it has been created by someone on the net= work? Thanks for any help, pointers to info etc...<o></o></p></div><div><p = class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p></div><div= ><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p></div>= <div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;">-John <o></o></p></= div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></= p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;backgrou= nd:white;"><o> </o></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"bac= kground:white;"><o> </o></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>= </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white;"><o> </o></p><= /div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"backgrou= nd:white;"><o> </o></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><o> </o></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span = style=3D"color:white;"><o></o></span></p></div></div></div></div></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background= -color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: "Richard Howells" <richard-yP/[email protected]&= gt; <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgro= und-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px= ; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/win_tech_off_topic/conversati= ons/messages/60560;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJxbXJqbDdzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM3MDE1M= jQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BG1zZ0lkAzYwNTYwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUD= MTQ3MTcxMDAxMA--?act=3Dreply&messageNum=3D60560">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;" > <a href=3D"mailto:richard-yP/[email protected]?subject=3DRE%3A%20%5B= OT%5D%20network%20connection%20enumeration" style=3D"text-decoration: none;= color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3D= RE%3A%20%5BOT%5D%20network%20connection%20enumeration" style=3D"text-decora= tion: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;" > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/win_tech_off_top= ic/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlb2xrNzI2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAz= M3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ3MTcxM= DAxMA--" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic<= /a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/= win_tech_off_topic/conversations/topics/60547;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2dDJ1YmYxBF9TAz= k3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM3MDE1MjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NjY5BG1zZ0lkAzYwNTYwBHNlY= wNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQ3MTcxMDAxMAR0cGNJZAM2MDU0Nw--" style=3D"text-= decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (10) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"megaphoneModule"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgr= ound-color:#E3E3E3;"> <div> <div class=3D"stream" style=3D"margin-bottom:10px;"> <div style=3D"background-color:white;"> <div class=3D"sn-img" style=3D"display:inline;"><img name=3D"tn= _file" style=3D"padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src=3D= "https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON"= height=3D"82" width=3D"82"></div> <div class=3D"mod-txt" style=3D"display:inline-block;"> <a rel=3D"nofollow" name=3D"sub_url" target=3D"_blank" href= =3D"https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style=3D"color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-lef= t:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style=3D"font-size:15px;">Have you tried= the highest rated email app?</span></a> <div style=3D"max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 st= ars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the mar= ket. 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