Re: [litestep] A theory about the decreasing popularity

chalk up another former litestep user who is right now using linux.

And as stated else where, the thing I miss most about windows at home
is litestep, and I can't use litestep at work because I need to have
my machine working like the "clients" machines...  so it's fluxbox at
home, and explorer at work.  But I do miss my theme with every thing
tucked away to neat and tight, none of this 64x64 "dock apps" crap
that I'm forced into now, so tacky and static....

I think it is a irronic story, that litestep started out to mimic a
unix gui in windows, and grew so much beyond that, but now all of the
windows users who used litestep because they liked to tinker have
moved to a *nix based system... remarkable how that wheel turns.

On 8/14/07, Joshua Blocher <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm going to have to second this thought. I have been using Linux
> happily for a couple of years now.
>
> That said I have a lot more stuff I have the option to tweak in Linux.
> The Desktop Environments I have looked at are no where near as
> customizable as LS and that's only 3 (have to look into e17 still).
>
> I have given up on windows as a platform that suits my needs
> I have said it before that LiteStep is the only thing I miss from Windows.
> Other than that Perfectly happy using what I have got.
>
> Gnome, Beryl/Compiz Fusion, etc . . . and the freedom to hack the code
> of anything on my system.
>
> Joshua L. Blocher
> verbalshadow
>
> On 8/14/07, Arve Barsnes <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Personally, I think that a lot of the people who would otherwise love
> > to tinkle with LiteStep to make a fun/effective/whathaveyou
> > personalized desktop have gotten tired of Microsoft, and taking their
> > tweaking all the way with a linux system. I know I have. Seems to me
> > like that is a trend that is only going to continue, with Vista
> > getting such poor reviews across the board (from what I've read
> > anyway)
> >
> > To continue using LiteStep though, all I'd need was the assurance that
> > it would play nice with Eclipse, as I'm still using Windows at work.
> >
> > I really like Roy's suggestion for a Firefox themed desktop though!
> >
> > On 8/14/07, Roy Gathercoal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > (please forgive me if this ends up being a duplicate. For some reason my
> > > first effort just disappeared. . .no smoke, no error message, just nothing.)
> > >
> > > It might be that the rising popularity of the internet is responsible
> > > for some of our perceptions that LiteStep has declined. I would probably
> > > have to put "desire to spend time gaming/chatting/working on computer
> > > and less desire to play with the screen itself" high on the list.
> > >
> > > It might also be that other customizing platforms have grown at
> > > LiteStep's expense. And perhaps people believed there is a much steeper
> > > learning curve than there really is to start using LiteStep--
> > >
> > > On the other hand, OpenOffice and Thunderbird--both applications not
> > > running from a browser seem to have grown tremendously in the last
> > > couple of years. Sites/programs such as AVS anti-virus, Spybot and
> > > Roboform seem to be doing well which would suggest that there isn't a
> > > shortage of users willing to trust their safety to open source (or at
> > > least free-to-use-at-home) programs.
> > >
> > > So I guess I don't know which are likely. I certainly wouldn't discard
> > > the possibility that fewer users--especially fewer users who are
> > > comfortable digging into their computers--might be spending the bulk of
> > > their time online.
> > >
> > > Which does remind me. Has anyone thought about creating a theme that
> > > would take the look and feel of firefox all the way to the boot? I would
> > > love to see a theme that brought some of the tools I use often on the
> > > web to my desktop. Facilities such as pie menus, bookmarked pages, tabs
> > > (especially the ability to preview a thumbnail before loading), and
> > > really quick access to resources (such as Wikipedia, and various other
> > > dictionary/thesaurus/special use dictionaries)?
> > >
> > > That might attract some attention. . .
> > >
> > > Fractal Design wrote:
> > > > So we all know that Litestep is losing users, and is not nearly as popular
> > > > as it once was.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to state for the record that I think this is due to the
> > > > internet, and the web 2.0 stuffs going on.
> > > > Take for instance the web browser: firefox.
> > > > Firefox is another open source effort.
> > > >
> > > > If people used their computers (eg word, office) more than their browser (eg
> > > > google, wikipedia)
> > > > then Litestep, an open source shell should be more popular than firefox.
> > > >
> > > > Think about it. Web browsing is 1 capability of an OS. Litestep basically
> > > > skins the shell of that OS.
> > > > How is litestep losing popularity?
> > > >
> > > > Its because people are using their browsers far more than any other function
> > > > of a computer.
> > > >
> > > > As an example, with tabbed browsing, people dont need/require/want a VWM
> > > > anymore. Its not that big of a deal anymore.
> > > >
> > > > P.S.
> > > > Just a theory, no data was collected to form these opinions or anything.
> > >
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