Re: Discussing issues

On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 07:29:21PM +0200, Egbert Eich wrote: 
> Well, Carl, I can only give my personal views on this:
> The 'governance matter' has recieved way too much attention.
> Havoc has already stated that in 99% of the cases things can
> get worked out collectively. So why even bother?

The argument is to find some way to avoid the situation we're
currently in. The 1% is 1% of decisions, but can be enormously time
consuming if you don't have a way to resolve them.

However, I agree with you the word "governance" should be dropped as
it seems to be pretty distracting.

What I would ask is simply how are we going to get a healthy X
development community that meets the needs of most people/groups,
ships stable releases, and includes new features and innovations.
Maybe multiple organizations are involved here, but which are they,
and what is the scope of each, and how do they relate.

One aspect of this that hasn't been mentioned is simply ensuring that
there's regular discussion of big picture goals and organization. It
seems like a lot of this conflict comes from some people assuming
XFree86 was more or less a porting project, and others assuming it was
"the" X project including driving new features.

If we all just go code now, instead of resolving things for real, then
sooner or later, or maybe even every month or so, all this comes back
and bites us again. If we're lucky then the darwinian celebrity death
match between projects eventually picks a winner, but really, what is
the point of that exercise.

I think everyone, including XFree86, X.org, desktop projects,
companies, everyone, has an interest in just having a clear, working
structure for X development that we can all move forward with.

Havoc