Re: Snappy GUI response

I'm not one to "me-too", but I agree so much with what Havoc said that
I have to support it.

On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:30:45PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:07:25PM -0700, Mark Vojkovich wrote: 
> > ... but the core problem is still there:
> > people don't seem to know how to write apps to take advantage
> > of what X has to offer. 
> 
> There's no chance of application developers as a general class ever
> understanding X protocol or X architecture on any kind of detailed
> level; 
   [ snip ]
> Assume apps will not understand any of this, it's a fact that can't
> be fought. They don't understand equivalent stuff on Windows or OS X
> either.

Agreed 100%. The kits handed to developers need to "do the right
thing" in most scenerios without them understanding more than some
simple examples at the app-level.

> In short, solutions must be in the toolkit or the server and must
> "just work" with minimal application efforts.  Anything that's more
> complicated for app developers than the standard cross-platform APIs
> won't be used.

Absolutly.

> Restating your core problem, we might say: X requires app authors to
> understand and code in light of its details in order to write
> responsive apps.  Windows and OS X generally do not. So what we have
> is a user interface issue with the X API ;-)

Yes, exactly. It should be as easy to write responsive apps for X as
it is in other systems. It dosn't really matter where the problem
lies, wherever it is, fixing it will be "really dramatic".

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