Re: bloatware

On Saturday 29 March 2003 11:21, Mike A. Harris wrote:
|  On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Jim Howard wrote:
|  >
|  >There are many definitions of bloatware.  For some it is installation
|  > add-ons and data files.  For me it is sheer text segment program code. 
|  > The other forms are easy to trim, but code is hard to rework to make
|  > more efficient.
|  >
|  >"Why is this a problem?  Don't people need lots of features?"
|
|  Anyone who claims X is bloatware simply has no idea what they are
|  talking about.  People who scream the loudest also tend to be

Ok, what about 60MB of "font sources" (PCF, BDF fonts) in XFree86 CVS and 
resulting 20MB of "installable fonts" in RPMs?
Isn't it bloatware?

|  those who have never used oprofile and similar tools to actually
|  *measure* real runtime metrics.  They also are the ones who tend
|  to complain that X doesn't have more features such as
|  translucency, etc.
|
|  Adding more features while also making the runtime memory usage
|  of the X server smaller are rather mutually exclusive goals.  For
|  those who require a minimalist X server, there is kdrive.
|
|  I wont bother going into details about the X server *not*
|  actually using much memory at all, and the fact that most people
|  claim X is huge and bloated by basing their assessment on the
|  broken and misleading output of programs like top and ps though.

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