RE: New Power Pack

Jon,
	I still don't think they are worth it for weight and for power. But, the weight has come down pretty good. I don't think soot and stuff would bother it. From what I am looking at, it seems that it uses the water as a heat sink to provide the difference between ~900 to about 212F to provide the necessary current. I doubt strongly that it would ever be my pot of choice @19oz. 
	I recently did the St Regis area in NY for 8 days. I used about 10oz of fuel including some fancy cooking, per Ryan Jordon's recent article on Backbaclinglight.com. Double cooking for the macaroni and a long simmer ("Fry Bake") to do his recipe for homemade Mac & Cheese. Also cooked a couple fish and fried dandelions(boil for ~15 minutes, then fry them down for about 15minutes w/garlic, salami and olive oil.) I would guess that your fuel consumption would not be that bad if you were also using the pot for charging, but it would still take some. Obviosly you wouldn't do it just to charge stuff up. It looks like it would supply about a days worth of juice for my phone when I cooked that way (about 30 minutes average time.) Interesting because on a long trip, say two or three months, it "could" keep my phone charged. Still, at 19oz I think I would be better off with a spare battery and use my regular 3.8oz pot.
	For very long outings, and where no phone batteries were available, it would pay in functionality. 
	My thoughts only . . .
		jdm
  

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Subject: [BackpackingLight] New Power Pack

Great find James.

I wonder how well the PowerPot V would work with a wood stove like the Sierra or Bush Buddy??? (yes, very messy with soot) 

Using my Giga canister stove would be expensive and take a lot of canisters. At 1 amp it would take close to two hours to charge the 1800 battery which is the same size as my Andriod's battery. That is one full 4oz canister set on low throttle.

Just to compare:
 My Nomad 3.5 solar charger with at Guide 10 battery pack and one set on 2300 mAh batteries weighs in at 17oz including all the cords I use. It has kept me well supplied with all the electrons I needed (Android used as GPS/Maps/Phone/web journal updates/camera) for the first 260 miles of Southern Calif.

1) PowerPot V with lid 19.5oz + Giga stove 3oz + one 4oz Canister =26.5oz

2) Evernew ti 1.3L pot 5oz + Giga & Canister + solar charger 17oz = 29oz 

3) ti pot+alcohol stove+6oz fuel+wind screen 12.8oz + solar chr= 29.8 oz

4) PowerPot V 19.5 + Sierra wood stove 16oz = 35.5oz 

Here in Washington with the trees the PowerPot V might be a great choice if backpacking/fishing/hunting rather than thru-hiking.

'til later,
Jon (Gandalf - PCT class of 2013)
Marysville WA

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1b. New Power Pack
    Posted by: "Jim Marco" [email protected] jamesdmarco
    Date: Mon May 13, 2013 11:08 am ((PDT))

Hi All,
                Here is a second power pot similar to the BioLite this power pot produces electricity from heat: http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=20354746&cp=3677338.
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