Re: Re:camp footwear
Ralph Oborn <[email protected]> Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:11:06 -0600
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--e89a8fb1fdeebd7b8c04e73856e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For those that do not know the difference a definition of terms: Backpackers pack for comfort in camp Thru-hikers pack for comfort on the trail Actually I liked his definition, some go to camp, some go to hike, I saw no disrespect. A key tenet of this list has always been "Hike your own hike". I often describe myself as a comfort hiker. And I can certainly learn from everybody. Ralph Oborn Comfort camper On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:48 AM, John Ladd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > >> For those that do not know the difference a definition of terms: >> Backpackers pack for comfort in camp >> Thru-hikers pack for comfort on the trail >> > > Lets not go there. > > A reasonable amount of comfort in camp can improve performance on the > trail by improving sleep. Yes, it can be overdone (I saw some folks with > aluminum camp chairs attached to their packs), but most people who are > traditional style hikers don't do it for the *camping *experience. > > We all make our own choices about hiking styles. We don't have to > disrespect other hikers with different equipment styles. > > > John Curran Ladd > 1616 Castro Street > San Francisco, CA 94114-3707 > 415-648-9279 > > > > --e89a8fb1fdeebd7b8c04e73856e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-famil= y:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;">For those that do not know the differen= ce a definition of terms:</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family= :arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13= px;">Backpackers pack for comfort in camp</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(80,0= ,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb= (80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Thru-hikers pack fo= r comfort on the trail</span><br> </div><div><br></div>Actually I liked his definition, some go to camp, some= go to hike, I saw no disrespect. =A0A key tenet of this list has always be= en "Hike your own hike". =A0I often describe myself as a comfort = hiker.<div> And I can certainly learn from everybody.</div><div><br></div><div>Ralph Ob= orn</div><div>Comfort camper</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>= <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:48 AM, John Ladd <span= dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jo= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> <br><br> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Sep 2= 5, 2013 at 7:36 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a> <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:BelcherJD@j= uno.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"borde= r-left:1px #ccc solid;"><p>For those that do not know the difference a defi= nition of terms:<br> Backpackers pack for comfort in camp<br> Thru-hikers pack for comfort on the trail </p></blockquote></div><br></div>= Lets not go there.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"= gmail_extra">A reasonable amount of comfort in camp can improve performance= on the trail by improving sleep. =A0Yes, it can be overdone (I saw some fo= lks with aluminum camp chairs attached to their packs), but most people who= are traditional style hikers don't do it for the <i>camping </i>experi= ence.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">We all make= our own choices about hiking styles. We don't have to disrespect other= hikers with different equipment styles.<div class=3D"im"><br><br clear=3D"= all"> <div>John Curran Ladd<br> 1616 Castro Street<br>San Francisco, CA=A0 94114-3707<br><a href=3D"tel:415= -648-9279" value=3D"+14156489279" target=3D"_blank">415-648-9279</a></div> </div></div></div> <br> <br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;"></div> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px= ;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1= px solid #EAEAEA " > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight/post;_ylc=3DX3oDMT= JwbTNyZmM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRtc2dJZ= AMxMzA2MDUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzgwMTI5MDY4?act=3Dreply&message= Num=3D130605">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%5BBa= ckpackingLight%5D%20Re%3Acamp%20footwear" style=3D"text-decoration: none; c= olor: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe= %3A%20%5BBackpackingLight%5D%20Re%3Acamp%20footwear" style=3D"text-decorati= on: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight/post;= _ylc=3DX3oDMTJjNmltbDJsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2= NjAwNQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzODAxMjkwNjg-" style=3D"text-decorat= ion: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #2D50FD; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA= ; " > <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Backpa= ckingLight/message/130592;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2dDc5YTVwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAz= U3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRtc2dJZAMxMzA2MDUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzd= GltZQMxMzgwMTI5MDY4BHRwY0lkAzEzMDU5Mg--" style=3D"text-decoration: none; co= lor: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (14) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tran= sform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inl= ine;"> </ul> =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight;_ylc=3DX3oDMT= JjM2R1ZG1hBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRzZWMDd= nRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzODAxMjkwNjg-" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">V= isit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id=3D"ygrp-grfd" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px;= padding: 15px 0;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <BR> +-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+<BR> BackpackingLight Mailing List<BR> To unsubscribe, send a blank message to:<BR> BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org<BR> <BR> Post messages by E-mailing them to:<BR> [email protected]<BR> +-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+=20=20=20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div> =20=20 <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJiaWNhdmdzBF9TAzk3NDc2NT= kwBGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDM= TM4MDEyOTA2OA--" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/a/i/u= s/yg/logo/us.gif" height=3D"15" width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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