RE: Re:camp footwear
Don Amundson <[email protected]> Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:24:49 -0700
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--_ce68080a-48b4-4607-a1df-188cb319f7c6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "We all make our own choices about hiking styles. We don't have to disrespe= ct other hikers with different equipment styles." I find this rather humorous given the fact that the name of this group is B= ackpackingLight. I was not offended by the posters definition and in fact = found it be be spot on. Of course having done some thru-hiking helps me t= o relate. I am offended (a tiny bit) by the implication of sleep deprivation induced = by lack of camp comfort. Comfort on the trail has never meant lack of comfo= rt in camp for me but it seems to be a mantra expressed by some "traditiona= l" backpackers. We all carry the basics but some of us have chosen to carr= y lighter basics. My 14oz. shelter protects me from the elements just like= another's 3lb. shelter. My 15oz backpack comfortably carries my gear just= like anothers 3lb. pack. My 21oz quilt keeps me warm and comfy in the cond= itions I hike in. And to top it all off I sleep well in spite of what som= e would consider a lack of reasonable camp comfort.=20 ------------------------------------------------------- <[email protected]> wrote: Lets not go there. A reasonable amount of comfort in camp can improve performance on the=20 trail by improving sleep. Yes, it can be overdone (I saw some folks=20 with aluminum camp chairs attached to their packs), but most people who=20 are traditional style hikers don't do it for the camping experience. We all make our own choices about hiking styles. We don't have to disrespec= t other hikers with different equipment styles. -------------------------------- On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wr= ote: For those that do not know the difference a definition of terms: Backpackers pack for comfort in camp Thru-hikers pack for comfort on the trail=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 =20=09=09=20=09=20=20=20=09=09=20=20 --_ce68080a-48b4-4607-a1df-188cb319f7c6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p> <div dir="ltr"> <div dir="ltr">"We all make our own choices about hiking styles. We don't have to disrespect other hikers with different equipment styles."<br><br>I find this rather humorous given the fact that the name of this group is BackpackingLight. I was not offended by the posters definition and in fact found it be be spot on. Of course having done some thru-hiking helps me to relate.<br><br>I am offended (a tiny bit) by the implication of sleep deprivation induced by lack of camp comfort. Comfort on the trail has never meant lack of comfort in camp for me but it seems to be a mantra expressed by some "traditional" backpackers. We all carry the basics but some of us have chosen to carry lighter basics. My 14oz. shelter protects me from the elements just like another's 3lb. shelter. My 15oz backpack comfortably carries my gear just like anothers 3lb. pack. My 21oz quilt keeps me warm and comfy in the conditions I hike in. And to top it all off I sleep well in spite of what some would consider a lack of reasonable camp comfort. <br>-------------------------------------------------------<br><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote: Lets not go there.<div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">A reasonable amount of comfort in camp can improve performance on the trail by improving sleep. Yes, it can be overdone (I saw some folks with aluminum camp chairs attached to their packs), but most people who are traditional style hikers don't do it for the <i>camping </i>experience.</div> <div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br></div>We all make our own choices about hiking styles. We don't have to disrespect other hikers with different equipment styles.<br>--------------------------------<br><br> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <div class="ecxgmail_quote"><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;">For those that do not know the difference a definition of terms:<br> Backpackers pack for comfort in camp<br> Thru-hikers pack for comfort on the trail <br></blockquote></div><br><div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><div class="ecxgmail_quote"><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><div class="ecxim"><br><br> </div></div></div><br><div style="color:white;"></div> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div> <br> <br> <div style="color:white;"></div> <br><br> <tt> </tt></div></div> </div> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA " > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwcDdjZm80BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRtc2dJZAMxMzA2MDYEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzgwMTMzNDkx?act=reply&messageNum=130606">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; " > <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20%5BBackpackingLight%5D%20Re%3Acamp%20footwear" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20%5BBackpackingLight%5D%20Re%3Acamp%20footwear" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; " > <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJjY3ZhamkxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzODAxMzM0OTE-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #2D50FD; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; " > <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight/message/130592;_ylc=X3oDMTM2YjNucGg3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRtc2dJZAMxMzA2MDYEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzgwMTMzNDkxBHRwY0lkAzEzMDU5Mg--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (15) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight;_ylc=X3oDMTJjNHYyajFvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEzODAxMzM0OTE-" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ygrp-grfd" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; padding: 15px 0;"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <BR> +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+<BR> BackpackingLight Mailing List<BR> To unsubscribe, send a blank message to:<BR> BackpackingLight-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org<BR> <BR> Post messages by E-mailing them to:<BR> [email protected]<BR> +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJicjIwNmdrBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzU3Mjk0BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NjAwNQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM4MDEzMzQ5MQ--" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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