Re: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!

Mike Jones <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:13:22 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.culture.bicycle.ebbc
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One-way streets are designed to move more cars faster, even if they're
hobbled to 15mph, that is faster than many bikers ride. Just as with
multiple lane streets- the fastest car sets the speed. One-way streets are
a way of getting multiple lanes where the streets are too narrow, and
frequently involve pedestrian unfriendly intersections when they connect
with a two-way street. They're also not good for transit providers or users
for various reasons.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Emily Thurston
<[email protected]>wrote:

> My experience with all the one way streets in downtown Portland, Oregon,
> is that they were GREAT for bicycles. They simplify traffic a great deal
> and make it easier for bicycles, which move slower and steer differently
> than the cars, to navigate intersections safely. In particular, turning
> left off a busy street works much better.
>
> I lived in Portland, OR for 9 years as the bicycle traffic tripled from 1%
> of transportation trips to 3% of transportation trips. Bicycling has
> tripled again since I moved to the bay area. The one way streets in and
> around Downtown remain.
>
> One added benefit of one-way streets is that it's easier to get the lights
> timed. In downtown Portland they were timed at 15 mph, which is a great
> speed for cycling.
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
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> > It's really not rocket science. If there are no one-way streets, one
> > can always get where one wants to go via the shortest route, saving
> > gas and reducing accidents and global warming (assuming that you are
> > one of those dinosaurs still using motor vehicles). Once you
> > introduce one-way streets, you will often have to drive farther than
> > the shortest route. For a simple example, say you are at one end of a
> > one-way street and want to get to somewhere else on that street.
> >
> > While we are on the subject of traffic, have you noticed how many
> > residents have eliminated their off-street parking space, and forced
> > the city to provide them on-street parking at a ridiculously low
> > below-market price? On-street parking -- at least on arterials --
> > should be eliminated. Instead, those lanes should be for the
> > exclusive use of bicyclists and emergency vehicles. That would
> > provide bicyclists a safe place to ride, and provide ambulances a way
> > to get through when the traffic lanes are full of cars.
> >
> > Then we could solve the homelessness problem by using the parking
> > lane on non-arterials for old cars that no longer run, to be used as
> > housing for the homeless. They could have a safe, dry place to sleep
> > and lock up their belongings.
> >
> > There! The world's major problems solved in only three paragraphs!
> > Now get to work!
>
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