Re: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!
Mike Jones <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:13:22 -0700
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One-way streets are designed to move more cars faster, even if they're hobbled to 15mph, that is faster than many bikers ride. Just as with multiple lane streets- the fastest car sets the speed. One-way streets are a way of getting multiple lanes where the streets are too narrow, and frequently involve pedestrian unfriendly intersections when they connect with a two-way street. They're also not good for transit providers or users for various reasons. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Emily Thurston <[email protected]>wrote: > My experience with all the one way streets in downtown Portland, Oregon, > is that they were GREAT for bicycles. They simplify traffic a great deal > and make it easier for bicycles, which move slower and steer differently > than the cars, to navigate intersections safely. In particular, turning > left off a busy street works much better. > > I lived in Portland, OR for 9 years as the bicycle traffic tripled from 1% > of transportation trips to 3% of transportation trips. Bicycling has > tripled again since I moved to the bay area. The one way streets in and > around Downtown remain. > > One added benefit of one-way streets is that it's easier to get the lights > timed. In downtown Portland they were timed at 15 mph, which is a great > speed for cycling. > > On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:40 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:15:54 -0700 > > From: Mike Vandeman <mjvande-yBeKhBN/[email protected]> > > To: Recipient list suppressed:; > > Subject: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?! > > Message-ID: <810347.49699.bm-lZTCTkxaLTf8AbloPCyspULUdxTIq2jXG6kzb5Gsg2M@public.gmane.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > > It's really not rocket science. If there are no one-way streets, one > > can always get where one wants to go via the shortest route, saving > > gas and reducing accidents and global warming (assuming that you are > > one of those dinosaurs still using motor vehicles). Once you > > introduce one-way streets, you will often have to drive farther than > > the shortest route. For a simple example, say you are at one end of a > > one-way street and want to get to somewhere else on that street. > > > > While we are on the subject of traffic, have you noticed how many > > residents have eliminated their off-street parking space, and forced > > the city to provide them on-street parking at a ridiculously low > > below-market price? On-street parking -- at least on arterials -- > > should be eliminated. Instead, those lanes should be for the > > exclusive use of bicyclists and emergency vehicles. That would > > provide bicyclists a safe place to ride, and provide ambulances a way > > to get through when the traffic lanes are full of cars. > > > > Then we could solve the homelessness problem by using the parking > > lane on non-arterials for old cars that no longer run, to be used as > > housing for the homeless. They could have a safe, dry place to sleep > > and lock up their belongings. > > > > There! The world's major problems solved in only three paragraphs! > > Now get to work! > > _______________________________________________ > Ebbc-Talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ebbc.org/listinfo.cgi/ebbc-talk-ebbc.org > _______________________________________________ Ebbc-Talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ebbc.org/listinfo.cgi/ebbc-talk-ebbc.org