Re: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!

I've found it just confuses them.......
On Oct 22, 2012 9:50 PM, "Kevin Dalley" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Legally, you are allowed to ride on left, but drivers may curse at you.
>
>
> Mike Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> At last night's Oakland BPAC meeting, the consensus was that a right-side
>> bike lane, on a one-way street, does not preclude you from riding on the far
>> left. RideOn.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Vandeman
>> Sent: 18 October 2012 07:34
>> To: Emily Thurston; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!
>>
>> At 08:54 AM 10/15/2012, Emily Thurston wrote:
>>
>>> My experience with all the one way streets in downtown Portland,
>>> Oregon, is that they were GREAT for bicycles. They simplify traffic a
>>> great deal and make it easier for bicycles, which move slower and steer
>>> differently than the cars, to navigate intersections safely.
>>> In particular, turning left off a busy street works much better.
>>
>>
>> One-way streets probably increase the speed of motor vehicles, making them
>> more dangerous for bicyclists. In general, it's vastly more pleasant to ride
>> side streets where there's minimal traffic.
>>
>> I lived in Portland, OR for 9 years as the bicycle traffic tripled from
>>> 1% of transportation trips to 3% of transportation trips.
>>> Bicycling has tripled again since I moved to the bay area. The one way
>>> streets in and around Downtown remain.
>>>
>>> One added benefit of one-way streets is that it's easier to get the
>>> lights timed. In downtown Portland they were timed at 15 mph, which is
>>> a great speed for cycling.
>>
>>
>> There's no way to time lights to please
>> everyone. Instead, we should program
>> lights to respond, first of all, to the presence of bicyclists, buses, and
>> emergency vehicles, and only respond to other vehicles when none of the
>> former are present.
>>
>> But, as I said, side streets (preferably without lights) are far better. And
>> the air is cleaner. And whenever you meet cross traffic, you can hop off and
>> become a pedestrian, with the right of way.
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:15:54 -0700
>>>> From: Mike Vandeman <mjvande-yBeKhBN/[email protected]>
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>>>> Subject: [Ebbc-Talk] One-Way Streets: Do Humans Really Think?!
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>>>> It's really not rocket science. If there are no one-way streets, one
>>>> can always get where one wants to go via the shortest route, saving
>>>> gas and reducing accidents and global warming (assuming that you are
>>>> one of those dinosaurs still using motor vehicles). Once you
>>>> introduce one-way streets, you will often have to drive farther than
>>>> the shortest route. For a simple example, say you are at one end of
>>>> a one-way street and want to get to somewhere else on that street.
>>>>
>>>> While we are on the subject of traffic, have you noticed how many
>>>> residents have eliminated their off-street parking space, and forced
>>>> the city to provide them on-street parking at a ridiculously low
>>>> below-market price? On-street parking -- at least on arterials --
>>>> should be eliminated.
>>>> Instead, those lanes should be for the
>>>> exclusive use of bicyclists and emergency vehicles. That would
>>>> provide bicyclists a safe place to ride, and provide ambulances a
>>>> way to get through when the traffic lanes are full of cars.
>>>>
>>>> Then we could solve the homelessness problem by using the parking
>>>> lane on non-arterials for old cars that no longer run, to be used as
>>>> housing for the homeless. They could have a safe, dry place to sleep
>>>> and lock up their belongings.
>>>>
>>>> There! The world's major problems solved in only three paragraphs!
>>>> Now get to work!
>>>
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