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Subject: [resistance] Digest Number 82


There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: Dale Emery <[email protected]>
      2. Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: Peter Vajda <[email protected]>
      3. Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: "Laurent Bossavit" <[email protected]>
      4. Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: Dale Emery <[email protected]>
      5. Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: Dale Emery <[email protected]>
      6. Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: Ron Jeffries <[email protected]>
      7. Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: "Laurent Bossavit" <[email protected]>
      8. Seeking feedback for a learning activity
           From: Peter Vajda <[email protected]>


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Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:42:27 -0700
   From: Dale Emery <[email protected]>
Subject: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

Hi all,

I'm designing a learning activity in which I provide a list of
"12 ways to respond to resistance" and (among other tasks) ask
participants to rank them.  Because participants may or may not
have seen these ideas before, I want to make sure I've stated
them in a reasonably understandable way.

I'd like your feedback about clarity.  It's okay if a few of the
ideas are moderately unclear.  That's not a requirement, but it
would be okay.  I do want to make sure that there are at most
only a few moderately unclear ones, and that none are hopelessly
unclear.

I'm not seeking feedback about whether these ideas are any good,
or about whether there is any value in ranking them.
Participants will sort that out for themselves as part of the
activity.

So my questions for you:  Which of the following ideas, if any,
are unclear?  Which are egregiously unclear?

a. Seek first to understand, then to be understood.

b. Adjust the context so that it better supports idea
    you are advocating.

c. Check your communication.

d. Acknowledge the losses.

e. Identify the information in the resistance.

f. Explain your motivations and expectations about the
    idea you are advocating.

g. Attend to your needs, the other person's needs, and
    the needs of the context.

h. Apply rewards and punishments.

i. Identify what you want for yourself, what you want
    for the other person, and what you want for the relationship.

j. Identify what makes this issue so important to you.

k. Invite the other person to express concerns and feelings.

l. Ask yourself what would lead a competent, intelligent,
    sincere, well-meaning person to behave that way.

Thanks,
Dale

--
Dale Emery, Consultant
Inspiring Leadership for Software People
Web:    http://www.dhemery.com
Weblog: http://www.dhemery.com/cwd

Two things a man should never be angry at: what he can help and
what he cannot help. --Anonymous


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Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:07:27 -0400
   From: Peter Vajda <[email protected]>
Subject: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

HI Dale,

I might be off....so feel free to disregard this.

First, who's resistance, mine or another's?

<<j. Identify what makes this issue so important to you.>>
Is the "issue" here the "resistance" issue, or an issue/idea/concept/ under
discussion/consideration?

<<e. Identify the information in the resistance.>>
information "underneath" the resistance? There's a difference for me.

Peace,
Peter G. Vajda, Ph.D.

SpiritHeart
Integrated Coaching & Practices
    for Essential Well-BE-ing
Values-Based Coaching, Counseling and Training
Mind-Body-Emotion-Spirit Integration
Atlanta, GA, USA; 770-804-9125; mailto:[email protected]
"What makes you think work and meditation are two different things?"
                 - Buddha at Work

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Message: 3
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:18:07 +0200
   From: "Laurent Bossavit" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

> b. Adjust the context so that it better supports idea
>     you are advocating.

"supports the idea" would make that one clearer.

> c. Check your communication.

That's rather unclear.

> d. Acknowledge the losses.

Whose losses is unclear...

Cheers,

-[Laurent]-
The code done yesterday should be as good as you could make it
yesterday. The fact that you know more today, and are more capable
today, is good news about today, not bad news about yesterday.
Ron Jeffries




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Message: 4
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:11:09 -0700
   From: Dale Emery <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

Hi Peter,

> First, who's resistance, mine or another's?

Another person's resistance to an idea you are advocating.  Your
own resistance is a topic for other exercises.  ;-)

I'll make it a point to clarify the instructions about that.

> <<j. Identify what makes this issue so important to you.>>
> Is the "issue" here the "resistance" issue, or an
> issue/idea/concept/ under discussion/consideration?

Okay, that's one unclear idea.  Does it seem moderately unclear,
or egregiously so?

> <<e. Identify the information in the resistance.>>
> information "underneath" the resistance? There's a difference
> for me.

I'll play around with the prepositions, and try some other
rewordings.

Thanks, Peter!

Dale

--
Dale Emery, Consultant
Inspiring Leadership for Software People
Web:    http://www.dhemery.com
Weblog: http://www.dhemery.com/cwd

A true gentleman is a man who knows how to play the bagpipes--but
doesn't. --Anonymous


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Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:18:48 -0700
   From: Dale Emery <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

Hi Laurent,

Thanks!

>> c. Check your communication.
>
> That's rather unclear.

It would amuse me to leave that particular one unclear.

Dale

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Dale Emery, Consultant
Inspiring Leadership for Software People
Web:    http://www.dhemery.com
Weblog: http://www.dhemery.com/cwd

Eighty percent of success is showing up. --Woody Allen


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Message: 6
   Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:16:22 -0400
   From: Ron Jeffries <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

On Friday, July 8, 2005, at 7:42:27 AM, Dale Emery wrote:

> So my questions for you:  Which of the following ideas, if any,
> are unclear?  Which are egregiously unclear?

> a. Seek first to understand, then to be understood.

Yes ...

> b. Adjust the context so that it better supports idea
>     you are advocating.

Missing [the]?

Not clear what "adjust the context is". I'd have thought context ==
reality.

> c. Check your communication.

At the door? Don't understand just what this means. Needs two or
three more words?

> d. Acknowledge the losses.

What losses?

> e. Identify the information in the resistance.

Might have said "find" or "look for" rather than "identify".

> f. Explain your motivations and expectations about the
>     idea you are advocating.

Yes ...

> g. Attend to your needs, the other person's needs, and
>     the needs of the context.

Needs elaboration in the sequel, but pretty sure I know what it
means.

> h. Apply rewards and punishments.

I don't understand this at all.

> i. Identify what you want for yourself, what you want
>     for the other person, and what you want for the relationship.

Yes ...

> j. Identify what makes this issue so important to you.

Yes ...

> k. Invite the other person to express concerns and feelings.

Yes ...

> l. Ask yourself what would lead a competent, intelligent,
>     sincere, well-meaning person to behave that way.

Do you mean "what would lead an OTHERWISE ..." ;->

Regards,

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.  -- Picasso



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Message: 7
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:29:19 +0200
   From: "Laurent Bossavit" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

Dale,

> It would amuse me to leave that particular one unclear.

I have no idea what you meant by that. ;->

Cheers,

-[Laurent]-
If a program is useless, it will have to be documented.




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Message: 8
   Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:36:11 -0400
   From: Peter Vajda <[email protected]>
Subject: Seeking feedback for a learning activity

Hi Dale

>Peter:
>~~~~
><<identify what makes this issue so important to you.>>
>Is the "issue" here the "resistance" issue, or an
>issue/idea/concept/ under discussion/consideration?
>~~~~

Dale:
~~~~~
>Okay, that's one unclear idea.  Does it seem moderately unclear,
>or egregiously so?
~~~~~

UGH....I suppose it depends on what you're looking for..if I want to get to
the heart of the matter and deal with any resistance to the "idea" being
presented, then I'd say egregious. If I want to be in my own conundrum and
perhaps, being confused, think I should be explore why I'm
confused/resistant i.e., "Should I be responding to the "idea" or to my own
resistance/confusion as an Inquiry?" then it's moderate.

Peace,
Peter

SpiritHeart
Integrated Coaching & Practices
    for Essential Well-BE-ing
Values-Based Coaching, Counseling and Training
Mind-Body-Emotion-Spirit Integration
Atlanta, GA, USA; 770-804-9125; mailto:[email protected]
"What makes you think work and meditation are two different things?"
                 - Buddha at Work

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