Re: SV: BP has a new owner

thank you my dear old friend

& please have no regret

i didnt mean to imply you have ever given up on
anything

but multipointing was indeed the original & unique &
especial focus of the group
a full month before the word multipointing was even
invented

& only some years later did it apparently become the
merely dominant focus

& only now 
many years later 
does it seem to have become the no longer even
particularly honored focus
but only a hedged & hemmed & hawed focus among perhaps
many
thanx to our sheepish phantom benefactor

but fortunately your original description is still
available on line in this message from 2001
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/3137
where you can see it again for yourself
>    BoundaryPoint
>    is an open discussion list for 'pointers and
bounders'...those
>    slightly strange individuals who are interested
in finding,
>    photographing and discussing geopolitical
boundary points,
>    especially those of a tri-state or tri-national
nature. We
>    discuss our various 'mini-expeditions' to these
various unique
>    points on the earth.

& otherwise i would never have accepted your kind
invitations to immoderately moderate it from day one
& later to be an owner & copilot with you
& today an acknowledged owner emeritus with you

for our multidimensional pursuit of happiness is
definitely something worth standing for & not giving
up on

& if i didnt know from experience that it has such
great value 
i wouldnt continue to stand for it so emphatically

& i am sure my continued insistence on it hasnt caused
any rift
nor any upset nor any alienation

on the contrary

it is the drift & upset of the focus that has caused
any rift or upset or alienation in the people
& could only continue to widen & deepen these

moreover
now that we have also been shorn of our slightly
strange aspect
which nevertheless remains perhaps our most precious
asset imo
& i again salute you for having encapsulated this idea
so eloquently
we have become practically indistinguishable from all
the normal unidimensional sheep of the world our
benefactor personality so capably & unstrangely
embodies 

& i say this not ad hominem since we dont even know he
is a man yet
& i do assume he means well but just doesnt realize
what he is doing 


also bill
if i may say so
taking action against anything is the worst thing you
can do

for it only makes the thing you oppose that much
stronger

it is a cosmic law

if you want something to go away
far better to ignore it or laugh at it than stand or
act in opposition to it

stand & act for things you want & like rather than
against anything you dont


but anyway i am so very glad you are back in strength

--- Bill Hanrahan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> I apologize for my partial mistatement.  While I
> truly did not
> remember the exact sequence of events, the BP
> management record indeed
> shows that I had in fact made you co-owner on Aug.
> 8, 2003 up until
> March 2004 (not a "couple of years").  What I
> reacted to was the
> implication that I had given up ownership which
> wasn't true.  I have
> always admired your vast knowledge about
> multipointing but I have to
> admit that I have been genuinely upset over the past
> several years
> about the rift in the group's membership which I
> believe was caused by
> your continued insistence that multipointing was the
> dominant focus of
> the group.  This insistence, I believe, resulted in
> the alienation of
> many members who were primarily interested in
> boundary issues.  I
> regret that due to your many contributions as well
> as our common
> history, I had refrained for so long in taking
> stronger action against
> the polarization of the group.  And for the
> record...my "not speaking"
> was not directed to you individually, but was a
> reflection of my
> conscious decision to manage the group in the
> background.  At any
> rate, the complete transfer of group ownership is
> because of my
> realization that BP needs a new direction which will
> unite rather than
> alienate members.
> 
> This is all I have to say about this subject.  Mike,
> I continue to
> value our common history as well as to respect your
> knowledge and
> technical contributions.
> 
> And I'm sorry about the ribs...!
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], aletheia
> kallos <aletheiak@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > thanx bill
> > i am sincerely touched that you are at least
> speaking
> > to me again
> > after we have risked our lives together trying
> > glhemaokpa against the wind & you broke my ribs
> > hauling me back into the boat
> > & after we have grown up in the same jail together
> too
> > albeit separately
> > since the last i can recall hearing from you
> directly
> > was the first of spring 2004
> > on the occasion when i did endeavor to restore the
> > original group description
> > for the last time
> > as i then understood & now continue to understand
> it 
> > as my final act as both list owner & moderator
> > an act which only a list owner can manage to do by
> > himself
> > you of all people must realize 
> > 
> > i am also warmly reminded of this earlier message
> from
> > you & reply from me
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11534
> > which we wrote during the period when i was indeed
> the
> > list owner at your personal request & behest
> > long before the membership deemed it necessary to
> > split the group
> > & when our dual controls of ownership were real &
> not
> > imagined
> > i assure you
> > even if you dont recall my insistence that you
> remain
> > owner emeritus along with me too
> > 
> > but now that the group is indeed split along the
> very
> > lines you have suggested there
> > what could the exception or difficulty be about
> > 
> > i dont get it
> > 
> > perhaps we should reunify the groups so we really
> do
> > have a problem
> > 
> > just kidding of course
> > 
> > but i am mystified as well as gratified in earnest
> 
> > 
> > --- Bill Hanrahan <wjhanrahan@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], aletheia
> > > kallos <aletheiak@>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > & it is also true he later sold me on becoming
> the
> > > > owner 
> > > > 
> > > > which i did & was for perhaps a couple of
> years
> > > > 
> > > > but i later sold it back to him
> 
> 
> 
> 




 
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