Re: beyondhom thoughts besides Ars?
"Ellen Madono [email protected] [beyondhomeopathy]" <[email protected]> Thu, 22 May 2014 07:40:09 +0900
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--047d7b676630f80f7e04f9f0ae20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Shannon, I thought he is like my son. *Mind; anxiety; health, about*: absin acet-ac ACON adam aeth AGAR AGN aloe alum alum-p alum-sil am-c AML-N androc ant-t aran-ix ARG ARG-N arist-cl arn *ARS* ars-h astac aur-m aur-m-n aur-s bar-c bell blatta bor bov brom BRY *bufo* CALAD *CALC* calc-ar calc-f CALC-P calc-s calc-sil calop-s cand-a cann-i canth caras carb-v CARC caust chel CHIN-AR choc *cinis-p* clad-r COCC cop corv-c cub culx-p cupr *cygn-c*= der electr epip euph fic-sp *FL-AC* galeoc-c germ gink glon grat haliae-lc HEP herp-s hist hyos IGN *KALI-AR* KALI-BR *kali-c* kali-m kali-p kali-sil kreoslac-c lac-eq lac-lup *LACH* lamp-c *lat-h* LIL-T LOB LYC m-arct mag-m MED merc meteo-a micro-a morg *musc-d* NAT-C nat-glt nat-m nat-p *NIT-AC* nux-m *NUX-V* onc-t oro-ac ozon parth perl PH-AC *PHEL* phlor PHOS plac plut-n podo POSIT psor *PULS* ruta sabad scut *sel* SEP sil sop-m spect spong staph *sulph* SYPH tarentta= x tela *uran-n* *Mind; abstraction of mind*: acon acon-l *agath-a* agn *alco* ALUM am-c aml-n ang anh arbu-m ARN aur-m-n bell berb biti-a bov bufo calop-s calx-b camph CANN-I caps carb-ac carc caust cer cer-c cer-o CHAM chlam-t choc cic colch con cortico CROC cupr cyc= l dys-co elaps euphr falco-p GRAPH guai haliae-lc HELL herin holm holm-c holm-m holm-n holm-o hydrog HYOS hyper ictod interf irid kali-c KREOS latex laur lava-f lsd LYC *lyss* mag-c mang MERC MEZ mobil-ph nat-c NAT-M nelu *NUX-M* nux-v OENA OL-AN olnd ONOS op ozon ph-ac PHOS plat plb plut-n psil-= c ran-b sabad salx-f sars sec sil sile-c spong stann stram sul-ac SULPH thujTUB verb vesp VISC *Mind; order, desire for*: anac arg ARS *bos-s* calc calc-i *calop-s* carb-v carc carn-g cath-a cer-c chir-f culx-p *enal-c* ephe-v fic-m *fic-sp* hema-h herin hydr-ac kali-c lac-eq lamp-c lant-p lsd marm-a nitro nux-v *plac* *plut-n* salx-f sep sulphtax tour-w ulm-c uran *vani-p* *Unknown hyper small remedies come after. Calop-s and plutonium. Probably have no physicals in these new provings.* *Using facial analysis and classical analysis, I got the Ars answer for my son. I doubt that I used the same rubrics as above. The above were selected with a bit more distance. The mess is because he is not focused on the concrete. Can't multitask. Wants the parents to even pretend that they were orderly (normal married couple). * *Carc. comes before Ars because of alphabetical order. And it is a small remedy. So, I would consider it if Ars does not work. Both are brown according to HFA.* *Ars. made a big difference for my son. He was having rage because others were not following his hyper-ordered (in the abstract) expectations. He was about to have a rage fit at the customs official. That's when I noticed. The official was making a decision that did not make "sense." * *My son is a math wiz. Words are not forthcoming. He comes from a long line of these types who get diabetes and cancer as they age.* *Best.* *Ellen* Ellen Madono On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Shannon Nelson [email protected][beyondhomeopathy] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks, Irene! > Some more questions: > > - The ones you have mentioned are mineral or plant or (only one?) animal= . > Have you identified an ICT for any of the nosodes, e.g. Med, Psor, Syph, > Carc, Tub? Or other infective agents? > > - What does this phrase mean? "inherited traits plus the matched remedy > added ones." What are matched remedy added traits? > > - I know you have explained this in the past, but for my imperfect memor= y > and imperfect email storage, can you outline the purposes for which you u= se > a patient's / client's ICT remedy? I recall that it's a sometimes crucia= l, > supportive intercurrent during treating of severe illness. How else do y= ou > use them? > > Thanks again! > Shannon > > > > On May 21, 2014, at 9:11 AM, "Irene de Villiers [email protected][b= eyondhomeopathy]" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On May 20, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Shannon Nelson [email protected][beyondh= omeopathy] wrote: > > > > > Thanks Irene, another wonderful one! > > > > Do you have any comments about what remedies you have seen to occur as > ICT, rather than as a traumatic, or illness-based, or ??? "layer"? > > Hi Shannon, Thanks.... > > As to what ICT types I have seen, there are many and some are a lot more > common than others. This variation in distribution makes it hard to get > them all documented, it is a huge body of work. > So I feel I have just started it, despite having spent so many years at > it. It takes a lot of examples to fully confirm what is an ICT feature an= d > what is not, and how each one is at a specific age. > ALl this to say - it is early days and impossible yet to say how many > types there are. SO far I can not rule out anything. > > The commoner ones - with many individuals to reperesent the ICT - are lik= e > those that come up often here, Ars, Lyc, Phos, Puls, Sul, Calc, and some > others. > Some less common ones are Colch, Spong, Lach, Plat, Stram. > In-between in incidence frequency are ones like Calc-phos, Ign, Nat-m, > SIl, Sep..... > I think I so far counted about thirty or so that I have spotted and lined > up with a specific remedy. > There are many more I am sure, now just sets of inherited traits that > recur as I know from my prior genetics work but not yet linked with their > specific remedy - or maybe a possible link but as yet unconfirmed by enou= gh > examples. > It is just hard to find the links between the inherited trait sets, and > the remedy that correlates to them. I counted actual relevant rubrics in > synthesis for some of the known ones, and it is less than one per cent. S= o > it is not much to go on to make the initial tenuous link to a remedy, > before it can be confirmed using multiple examples in multiple species > (difficult with more rare ICTs) and only then it can be combined into one > set of data that includes the inherited traits plus the matched remedy > added ones. > I know it took me more than ten years to confidently document Plat for > example, and when I did, I could then tell that I had missed one right > under my nose for all that time:-) > > Sometimes there is one very weird rubric that causes me to suspect a > remedy association, and following up with hours of rubric study may clinc= h > it, or may do the opposite. It helps that Synthesis has the rubrics list > for each remedy - and that I have the patience to go through ten thousand > or more rubrics of a remedy to seek the one percent of rubrics that might > pertain to inherited traits :-) > Once a match is made, it often gives the feeling of "why did I not see > that before", as things start to stick me in the eye. But the initial > connection can be hard to make. > Still, there have to be a lot more to find and confirm. Enough for all th= e > sets of genetic traits that go in discrete groups. SO - bottom line I do > not really know how many there are. Yet. > > It is all very logical however. It makes perfect sense that we have very > few of certain types of personality - after all, the world turns based on= a > proper balance of people with different interests. We need entertainers, > inventors, artists, dictators (eg to manage mass crisis situations and > restore order over panic), health care folk, builders, designers, folk in= a > myriad of activity areas, and so on. There is so much logic to how it all > works together. If you ever lived with a Lach, you'd know why that type i= s > rare, two of them in one place would be a bit much.....One queen/king > requiring curtseys and assuming regal-style orders will be unquestioned, = is > enough in one environment - there needs to be a good ratio of generals an= d > troops - or as Lach might see it, - queens and plebs. > > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) > "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it." > > >=20=20 > --047d7b676630f80f7e04f9f0ae20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family= :georgia,serif;">Dear Shannon,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:georgia,serif;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"= font-family:georgia,serif;"> I thought he is like my son. =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-family:georgia,serif;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl= e=3D"font-family:georgia,serif;"> <p> </p><p><b>Mind; anxiety; health, about</b>:<br><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span = class=3D"gm_ gm_aff35671-ac71-66b3-9888-2b96c3cbc20f gm-spell">absin</span>= <span class=3D"gmw_"> acet-ac ACON <span class=3D"gm_ gm_0bd745f6-bf7f-9a1d= -a9de-a01a0e129e58 gm-spell">adam</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class= =3D"gm_ gm_e84467c1-fc40-7585-fa14-f703ff059866 gm-spell">aeth</span><span = class=3D"gmw_"> AGAR AGN aloe alum alum-p alum-sil am-c AML-N <span class= =3D"gm_ gm_2cf2eaf3-e8fa-aba0-4a9d-4091b4282552 gm-spell">androc</span><spa= n class=3D"gmw_"> ant-t aran-ix ARG ARG-N arist-cl <span class=3D"gm_ gm_b2= 57e8f2-a422-8b5d-2181-849b3b52a7d1 gm-spell">arn</span> </span></span></spa= n></span></span><b><i>ARS</i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> ars-h <span class=3D= "gm_ gm_904933e5-cfed-9da4-2f46-7837e7b07531 gm-spell">astac</span><span cl= ass=3D"gmw_"> aur-m aur-m-n aur-s bar-c bell <span class=3D"gm_ gm_1d705d4a= -7873-06d5-14d6-ab3bd9354049 gm-spell">blatta</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <= span class=3D"gm_ gm_1d796b28-9c6a-c448-830a-f1a351462e63 gm-spell">bor</sp= an><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_e284be30-2b9d-004f-e489-f82e= 5e1cc71e gm-spell">bov</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_07= 07b87b-bf99-3065-18d8-0b7a422fe504 gm-spell">brom</span> BRY </span></span>= </span></span></span><b><i><span class=3D"gm_ gm_f06f84e9-b591-1bd8-3548-9b= 614b890d49 gm-spell">bufo</span></i></b> CALAD <b><i>CALC</i></b> calc-ar c= alc-f CALC-P calc-s calc-sil calop-s cand-a cann-i <span class=3D"gm_ gm_48= 141023-9ab8-2cf9-0b8b-81f225ee27c3 gm-spell">canth</span><span class=3D"gmw= _"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_eb3d2153-6bad-5c7b-d77b-92747612ce70 gm-spell">ca= ras</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> carb-v CARC <span class=3D"gm_ gm_d605d033-= 621c-c7d2-2e96-6edb022426a0 gm-spell">caust</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <sp= an class=3D"gm_ gm_ccc86442-e9ab-1600-9f3e-cbe80f8db201 gm-spell">chel</spa= n> CHIN-AR choc </span></span></span><b><i>cinis-p</i></b> clad-r COCC cop = corv-c cub culx-p <span class=3D"gm_ gm_829c655f-7c9f-aeb4-fccf-534275cf929= 0 gm-spell">cupr</span> <b><i>cygn-c</i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> der <span= class=3D"gm_ gm_b9ea4f8f-21e8-4eb5-efe9-df4431cf9853 gm-spell">electr</spa= n><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_7a12a306-7fae-8969-da9f-71eaa= 4a41101 gm-spell">epip</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_98= 02d8d8-d237-2aa7-1a47-1d91a4592eca gm-spell">euph</span> fic-sp </span></sp= an></span><b><i>FL-AC</i></b> galeoc-c germ gink <span class=3D"gm_ gm_5085= 659f-2709-2629-a8d1-4856019801e5 gm-spell">glon</span><span class=3D"gmw_">= <span class=3D"gm_ gm_3e181cda-49bc-2e41-e035-7f724a621907 gm-spell">grat<= /span><span class=3D"gmw_"> haliae-lc HEP herp-s <span class=3D"gm_ gm_1981= 3752-9cba-c3d1-e3ef-422871e9fd20 gm-spell">hist</span><span class=3D"gmw_">= <span class=3D"gm_ gm_cff07e8f-a52b-f42e-b408-27cd3fea1462 gm-spell">hyos<= /span> IGN </span></span></span><b><i>KALI-AR</i></b> KALI-BR <b><i>kali-c<= /i></b> kali-m kali-p kali-sil <span class=3D"gm_ gm_d2bd8d55-fdbf-d9e5-266= a-9dd04df9eb80 gm-spell">kreos</span> lac-c lac-eq lac-lup <b><i>LACH</i></= b> lamp-c <b><i>lat-h</i></b> LIL-T LOB LYC m-arct mag-m MED <span class=3D= "gm_ gm_f67dd2a5-41b1-58d5-ef72-028ccbe2a1d3 gm-spell">merc</span> meteo-a = micro-a <span class=3D"gm_ gm_e5f157c2-66a0-67ae-a144-d8861591f1d5 gm-spell= ">morg</span> <b><i>musc-d</i></b> NAT-C nat-glt nat-m nat-p <b><i>NIT-AC</= i></b> nux-m <b><i>NUX-V</i></b> onc-t oro-ac <span class=3D"gm_ gm_ccbb334= a-4ff1-07fd-9649-d494cf6b9b5a gm-spell">ozon</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <s= pan class=3D"gm_ gm_0b96cad9-b2fe-c60a-7515-e71263f2b670 gm-spell">parth</s= pan><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_84eae608-8063-71fa-ff9a-8db= ad48a1bbe gm-spell">perl</span> PH-AC </span></span><b><i>PHEL</i></b><span= class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_cd2bc452-f520-4459-7689-e72ca58237c9= gm-spell">phlor</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> PHOS <span class=3D"gm_ gm_8ce= 2c387-9d9b-ae6f-e6bd-17f9ec674aaa gm-spell">plac</span><span class=3D"gmw_"= > plut-n <span class=3D"gm_ gm_46e48130-00b8-9f41-bf63-9f88022b4a8f gm-spel= l">podo</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> POSIT <span class=3D"gm_ gm_147f42e7-4c= a6-f7b7-8799-e0db49d86d52 gm-spell">psor</span> </span></span></span></span= ><b><i>PULS</i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_fba085f5-685= 4-9c09-26e2-7cb5ae7491f2 gm-spell">ruta</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span c= lass=3D"gm_ gm_cb69e502-9120-0343-5b12-25400e6216e7 gm-spell">sabad</span> = scut </span></span><b><i><span class=3D"gm_ gm_f689e356-e16d-b8a1-6e19-aefc= e1ce56b4 gm-spell">sel</span></i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> SEP <span class= =3D"gm_ gm_ba4c5be2-a9b6-cab6-303f-694f28c7d168 gm-spell">sil</span><span c= lass=3D"gmw_"> sop-m spect <span class=3D"gm_ gm_20b64b1e-1885-a9cd-e81e-bd= 23011ea69e gm-spell">spong</span> staph </span></span><b><i><span class=3D"= gm_ gm_20d305cb-c846-e977-6243-41e7d629b7e1 gm-spell">sulph</span></i></b><= span class=3D"gmw_"> SYPH <span class=3D"gm_ gm_b9c91469-b84d-e58f-fe4b-ec4= da380b213 gm-spell">tarent</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> tax <span class=3D"g= m_ gm_ac77b981-fe8e-a152-c314-e4bd05a2837b gm-spell">tela</span> </span></s= pan><b><i>uran-n</i></b></p> <p><b>Mind; abstraction of mind</b>:<br><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class= =3D"gm_ gm_358c2230-ba43-de64-3bef-023b5298aa35 gm-spell">acon</span><span = class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_9a5bf25e-9c15-dc78-533f-71c6b080a2a9 = gm-spell">acon</span>-l </span></span><b><i><span class=3D"gmw_"><span clas= s=3D"gm_ gm_989a3e9a-1d7e-1103-06fb-ec8098869fa4 gm-spell">agath</span>-a</= span></i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_7adc5e93-ee3e-567c= -4cec-b25423d134ea gm-spell">agn</span> </span><b><i><span class=3D"gm_ gm_= 900c4b82-fcf9-451a-1681-dc45a05a04ae gm-spell">alco</span></i></b><span cla= ss=3D"gmw_"> ALUM am-c <span class=3D"gm_ gm_53576340-33d8-5bab-5ffa-6875fe= 685bfa gm-spell">aml</span>-n ang </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_8ceafbff-278= e-40a4-20d2-6e3ffccda775 gm-spell">anh</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span cl= ass=3D"gm_ gm_d6f58894-ac43-fda2-b78a-1551dfa3cd29 gm-spell">arbu</span><sp= an class=3D"gmw_">-m ARN <span class=3D"gm_ gm_c674c3ff-aa52-5474-9153-b74a= 2a97b64c gm-spell">aur</span>-m-n bell </span></span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_= 3a2837f6-c6a5-8215-7e9d-1ee2c22930dd gm-spell">berb</span><span class=3D"gm= w_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_498b718e-d184-4ce6-257b-7dc1be4a81d4 gm-spell">b= iti</span>-a </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_7ddeb538-64b0-2913-89ab-9749d2ae9= a99 gm-spell">bov</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_c140959= 1-51b4-dcf8-14e4-aecd144df7fa gm-spell">bufo</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <s= pan class=3D"gm_ gm_6dc0d4a7-489b-ca56-13fc-345d49702b05 gm-spell">calop</s= pan>-s calx-b </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_b31f3620-a1d7-e7c3-0066-3cbcc412= 4109 gm-spell">camph</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> CANN-I caps carb-<span cla= ss=3D"gm_ gm_674a8573-1572-5a57-856a-6132554f8128 gm-spell">ac</span> </spa= n><span class=3D"gm_ gm_02cb85f7-d4b9-5028-b951-d14f4db3a064 gm-spell">carc= </span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_0028087a-6a26-94e1-0444-= 869c4e06309e gm-spell">caust</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_= gm_db048894-c74e-b7ca-5319-1efbda5e1e1d gm-spell">cer</span><span class=3D= "gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_69f1eb88-ac7b-a815-2dc7-516e18b2bb06 gm-spell= ">cer</span><span class=3D"gmw_">-c <span class=3D"gm_ gm_4e7cecef-ced9-ddc= 4-7f22-b2775fc74738 gm-spell">cer-o</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> CHAM <span = class=3D"gm_ gm_f8f0321a-1c71-688c-e199-45f9be71cd31 gm-spell">chlam</span>= -t choc </span></span></span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_439150c5-0d64-2c93-2c2a-= 60ebb36b7f2a gm-spell">cic</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ g= m_ad1582b8-c476-3e05-5255-891175b2d4ef gm-spell">colch</span><span class=3D= "gmw_"> con <span class=3D"gm_ gm_776f29a6-ab98-c3a6-2ff4-4752b1b954ac gm-s= pell">cortico</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> CROC <span class=3D"gm_ gm_f4aaed= cf-f3c6-312a-025f-7c447b63a52d gm-spell">cupr</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <= span class=3D"gm_ gm_5265cc2f-1d42-f994-4894-c73d6d53c7ff gm-spell">cycl</s= pan><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_183e6c17-8b56-a356-2b65-18f= b26679b38 gm-spell">dys</span>-co </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_d4336f2a-361= 4-1f91-d1e5-ebe430d37b62 gm-spell">elaps</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span = class=3D"gm_ gm_8c7dbbc0-16b8-da41-39dd-e6fc5092f3da gm-spell">euphr</span>= <span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_046fe9b2-4dde-3254-10c4-fa099f0= d9ee4 gm-spell">falco</span>-p GRAPH </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_497cee76-= 5fce-89be-741c-621178405c54 gm-spell">guai</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <spa= n class=3D"gm_ gm_c55611cc-f237-e4d0-5e55-f842eea1f9e3 gm-spell">haliae</sp= an>-lc HELL </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_924c7111-894a-f00f-d488-e06bad435a= c9 gm-spell">herin</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> holm holm-c holm-m holm-n ho= lm-o <span class=3D"gm_ gm_4203f940-6aa5-7f3e-0c8d-d86ea83b7dc4 gm-spell">h= ydrog</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> HYOS hyper <span class=3D"gm_ gm_3914d955= -fb4f-8097-96d6-bc4d26d1b948 gm-spell">ictod</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <s= pan class=3D"gm_ gm_557d67df-a6c2-ab9d-3fec-1731ec8b985e gm-spell">interf</= span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_0d1bb7a5-30be-b6bf-e692-cc= 3340548651 gm-spell">irid</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm= _5e893491-1a6e-80c1-a920-21f0a54c5de2 gm-spell">kali</span>-c KREOS latex <= /span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_ad1618f5-cdad-f5bf-e91f-40db2a3c09e0 gm-spell">= laur</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> lava-f <span class=3D"gm_ gm_988a7fd1-bc73= -9732-c058-42b457d5adbb gm-spell">lsd</span> LYC </span></span></span></spa= n></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><b><i><spa= n class=3D"gm_ gm_9857682f-725c-e25a-fa4e-c59fd53af1ca gm-spell">lyss</span= ></i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> mag-c <span class=3D"gm_ gm_cf0d65c6-c28b-74= c8-8f01-be5b2562b13d gm-spell">mang</span><span class=3D"gmw_"><span class= =3D"gmw_"> MERC MEZ <span class=3D"gm_ gm_62afede9-8fe6-00ac-d9da-3384cf0fe= ea7 gm-spell">mobil</span><span class=3D"gmw_">-<span class=3D"gm_ gm_25885= 630-d519-e7d9-993f-596f9f6626a6 gm-spell">ph</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <s= pan class=3D"gm_ gm_82ab7b26-ebc1-1b0b-3546-279bb4460ac5 gm-spell">nat</spa= n>-c NAT-M </span></span></span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_8404e482-5022-d754-27= ed-5df4a184f3ac gm-spell">nelu</span> </span></span><b><i>NUX-M</i></b><spa= n class=3D"gmw_"> nux-v OENA OL-AN <span class=3D"gm_ gm_ea11c5b6-f825-de67= -efd2-f97f51de59bc gm-spell">olnd</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> ONOS op <span= class=3D"gm_ gm_6ec2f28e-5e49-aa26-1763-9516182d1cd0 gm-spell">ozon</span>= <span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_5dc11fda-dfbd-9908-e2f2-2112891= a9459 gm-spell">ph</span><span class=3D"gmw_">-<span class=3D"gm_ gm_31ebf4= 17-e384-2fbd-5e24-166ac3473d53 gm-spell">ac</span> PHOS plat </span></span>= <span class=3D"gm_ gm_97f1ffe3-8e91-8d16-20d0-bec00cf44304 gm-spell">plb</s= pan><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_aade6232-9a26-0be1-4787-286= 24d563903 gm-spell">plut</span><span class=3D"gmw_">-n <span class=3D"gm_ g= m_616ae85b-17de-8c0e-7955-f9c87ae19791 gm-spell">psil</span><span class=3D"= gmw_">-<span class=3D"gm_ gm_abe9e501-5e64-dbfd-36b2-6f08be751b53 gm-spell"= >c ran</span>-b </span></span></span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_0827fdac-9a4d-64= 68-cf88-d9fbcad062a6 gm-spell">sabad</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span clas= s=3D"gm_ gm_8f4620e5-b2c0-226a-bee0-4fa86fe97559 gm-spell">salx</span>-f sa= rs sec </span><span class=3D"gm_ gm_adc52a51-6692-317b-eb5a-76231a1860bf gm= -spell">sil</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> sile-c <span class=3D"gm_ gm_95b92e= d1-e4e4-4e18-c1c9-81e60aef7091 gm-spell">spong</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> = <span class=3D"gm_ gm_531ad358-4638-d203-21d1-58219d44fb0c gm-spell">stann<= /span><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_1ffbc96b-0919-e60a-0a01-2= d1cd3759888 gm-spell">stram</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> sul-<span class=3D"= gm_ gm_179b18a3-5cb1-dc6e-41fc-d1e2256c787e gm-spell">ac</span> SULPH </spa= n><span class=3D"gm_ gm_34680994-005c-e71f-bca8-461c1493edca gm-spell">thuj= </span><span class=3D"gmw_"> TUB verb <span class=3D"gm_ gm_f0632872-7c43-b= 878-0c98-38dfc90918d1 gm-spell">vesp</span> VISC</span></span></span></span= ></span></span></p> <p> </p><p><b>Mind; order, desire for</b>:<br><span class=3D"gmw_"> <span class= =3D"gm_ gm_f5efbee7-1405-ddce-b34b-ca9e68ffbb59 gm-spell">anac</span><span = class=3D"gmw_"> <span class=3D"gm_ gm_7bd452e9-749f-4222-80ac-a5f406256782 = gm-spell">arg</span> ARS </span></span><b><i>bos-s</i></b> calc calc-i <b><= i>calop-s</i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> carb-v <span class=3D"gm_ gm_f632711= f-ad4a-4172-11df-99af5b86bebd gm-spell">carc</span> carn-g cath-a cer-c chi= r-f culx-p </span><b><i>enal-c</i></b> ephe-v fic-m <b><i>fic-sp</i></b><sp= an class=3D"gmw_"> hema-h <span class=3D"gm_ gm_3b3f6df1-a204-2928-1def-262= d8e9cb531 gm-spell">herin</span><span class=3D"gmw_"> hydr-ac kali-c lac-eq= lamp-c lant-p <span class=3D"gm_ gm_63820261-f8fe-7d69-6969-3dccb921d5b9 g= m-spell">lsd</span> marm-a nitro nux-v </span></span><b><i><span class=3D"g= m_ gm_ee7b6847-c0ef-b5d9-b280-8ede79368915 gm-spell">plac</span></i></b> <b= ><i>plut-n</i></b><span class=3D"gmw_"> salx-f sep <span class=3D"gm_ gm_11= fb1055-0cad-238c-597a-f2408225a26c gm-spell">sulph</span><span class=3D"gmw= _"> tax tour-w ulm-c <span class=3D"gm_ gm_14369384-0626-dc5e-4c38-22f9f4a9= ada7 gm-spell">uran</span> </span></span><b><i>vani-p</i></b></p> <p><b><i><br></i></b></p><p><b><i><span class=3D"gmw_">Unknown hyper small = remedies come after. =C2=A0Calop-s and plutonium. =C2=A0Probably have no ph= ysicals in these new <span class=3D"gm_ gm_0947fcde-7d37-ebb9-46c9-5a663b05= 3b07 gm-spell">provings</span>.</span></i></b></p> <p><b><i><br></i></b></p><p><b><i>Using facial analysis and classical analy= sis, I got the Ars answer for my son. =C2=A0I doubt that I used the same ru= brics as above. =C2=A0The above were selected with a bit more distance. =C2= =A0The mess is because he is not focused on the concrete. =C2=A0Can't m= ultitask. =C2=A0Wants the parents to even pretend that they were orderly (n= ormal married couple). =C2=A0</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Carc. comes before Ars because of alphabetical order. =C2=A0And it= is a small remedy. =C2=A0So, I would consider it if Ars does not work. =C2= =A0 Both are brown according to HFA.</i></b></p><p><b><i>Ars. made a big di= fference for my son. =C2=A0He was having rage because others were not follo= wing his hyper-ordered (in the abstract) expectations. =C2=A0He was about t= o have a rage fit at the customs official. =C2=A0That's when I noticed.= =C2=A0The official was making a decision that did not make "sense.&qu= ot;=C2=A0</i></b><br> </p><p><b><i>My son is a math wiz. =C2=A0Words are not forthcoming. =C2=A0H= e comes from a long line of these types who get diabetes and cancer as they= age.</i></b></p><p><b><i><br></i></b></p><p><b><i>Best.</i></b></p><p><b><= i>Ellen</i></b></p> </div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"l= tr"><font face=3D"georgia, serif">Ellen Madono</font></div></div> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Shannon= Nelson <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> = [beyondhomeopathy] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:beyondhomeopathy= @yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>= ;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div> <div> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>Thanks, Irene! =C2=A0</p><div>Some more questions: =C2=A0</div><di= v><br></div><div>=C2=A0- The ones you have mentioned are mineral or plant o= r (only one?) animal. =C2=A0Have you identified an ICT for any of the nosod= es, e.g. Med, Psor, Syph, Carc, Tub? =C2=A0Or other infective agents? =C2= =A0</div> <div><br></div><div>=C2=A0- What does this phrase mean? =C2=A0"<span s= tyle=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">inherited traits plus the match= ed remedy added ones.</span><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255= );">" =C2=A0What are matched remedy added traits?</span></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><br></span></div><d= iv><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">=C2=A0- I know you ha= ve explained this in=C2=A0the=C2=A0past, but for my imperfect memory and im= perfect email storage, can you outline the purposes for which you use a pat= ient's / client's ICT remedy? =C2=A0I recall that it's a someti= mes crucial, supportive intercurrent during treating of severe illness. =C2= =A0How else do you use them?</span></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><br></span></div><d= iv><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">Thanks again!</span><= /div><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">Shannon</span>= </div> <div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On = May 21, 2014, at 9:11 AM, "Irene de Villiers <a href=3D"mailto:furrybo= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [beyondhome= opathy]" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targe= t=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div> <br><blockquote type=3D"cite"> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div><p><br> On May 20, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Shannon Nelson <a href=3D"mailto:shannonnelson= @tds.net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [beyondhomeopathy] wr= ote:<br> <br> > <br> > Thanks Irene, another wonderful one!<br> > <br> > Do you have any comments about what remedies you have seen to occur as= ICT, rather than as a traumatic, or illness-based, or ??? "layer"= ;? <br> <br> Hi Shannon, Thanks....<br> <br> As to what ICT types I have seen, there are many and some are a lot more co= mmon than others. This variation in distribution makes it hard to get them= all documented, it is a huge body of work.<br> So I feel I have just started it, despite having spent so many years at it.= It takes a lot of examples to fully confirm what is an ICT feature and wha= t is not, and how each one is at a specific age.<br> ALl this to say - it is early days and impossible yet to say how many types= there are. SO far I can not rule out anything.<br> <br> The commoner ones - with many individuals to reperesent the ICT - are like = those that come up often here, Ars, Lyc, Phos, Puls, Sul, Calc, and some ot= hers.<br> Some less common ones are Colch, Spong, Lach, Plat, Stram. <br> In-between in incidence frequency are ones like Calc-phos, Ign, Nat-m, SIl,= Sep.....<br> I think I so far counted about thirty or so that I have spotted and lined u= p with a specific remedy.<br> There are many more I am sure, now just sets of inherited traits that recur= as I know from my prior genetics work but not yet linked with their specif= ic remedy - or maybe a possible link but as yet unconfirmed by enough exam= ples.<br> It is just hard to find the links between the inherited trait sets, an= d the remedy that correlates to them. I counted actual relevant rubrics in= synthesis for some of the known ones, and it is less than one per cent. So= it is not much to go on to make the initial tenuous link to a remedy, befo= re it can be confirmed using multiple examples in multiple species (difficu= lt with more rare ICTs) and only then it can be combined into one set of da= ta that includes the inherited traits plus the matched remedy added ones. <= br> I know it took me more than ten years to confidently document Plat for exam= ple, and when I did, I could then tell that I had missed one right under my= nose for all that time:-) <br> <br> Sometimes there is one very weird rubric that causes me to suspect a remedy= association, and following up with hours of rubric study may clinch it, or= may do the opposite. It helps that Synthesis has the rubrics list for each= remedy - and that I have the patience to go through ten thousand or more r= ubrics of a remedy to seek the one percent of rubrics that might pertain to= inherited traits :-) <br> Once a match is made, it often gives the feeling of "why did I not see= that before", as things start to stick me in the eye. But the initial= connection can be hard to make.<br> Still, there have to be a lot more to find and confirm. Enough for all the= sets of genetic traits that go in discrete groups. SO - bottom line I do n= ot really know how many there are. Yet.<br> <br> It is all very logical however. It makes perfect sense that we have very fe= w of certain types of personality - after all, the world turns based on a p= roper balance of people with different interests. We need entertainers, inv= entors, artists, dictators (eg to manage mass crisis situations and restore= order over panic), health care folk, builders, designers, folk in a myriad= of activity areas, and so on. There is so much logic to how it all works t= ogether. If you ever lived with a Lach, you'd know why that type is rar= e, two of them in one place would be a bit much.....One queen/king requirin= g curtseys and assuming regal-style orders will be unquestioned, is enough = in one environment - there needs to be a good ratio of generals and troops = - or as Lach might see it, - queens and plebs. <br> <br> Namaste,<br> Irene<br> --<br> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.<br> P.O. 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