Re: beyondhom Platina Constitutional

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The patient took a Platina 200C water dose, 1 teaspoon, once per day, for 4=
 days.
Each day they said they felt calmer and slept better and I could tell on ph=
one they sounded much calmer.
Last dose was Friday, I said take no more, so had 4 doses.
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Sunday, had a period, which was 2 weeks after last period.  Has been having=
 a period about every 2 months, extremely light, says "invisible", since pr=
oving Arnica 2 years ago reversing an endometrial ablation which stopped it=
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Said this period was heavier than the previous ones but not abnormal, more =
like periods when younger.and not as heavy as the ones which led to having =
an endometrial ablation to stop them.=20

Wants to take the remedy again because felt it was very calming and said st=
opped obsessive thinking which is now starting again.=20

Any thoughts if having this period is a proving or resuming a natural menst=
rual cycle and normal flow which was stopped from an endometrial ablation b=
ut partially restored after proving Arnica?

I'm thinking the period came 2 days after last dose, if a proving, should i=
t have happened sooner?=20
Other thought is calmness isn't long lasting and needs more frequent dosing=
.

Susan
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From: healthyinfo6 <[email protected]>
To: beyondhomeopathy <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 9:09 am
Subject: Re: beyondhom Platina Constitutional



Good info, Irene.
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I didn't think this person is ICT constitutional Platina.=20=20
The hysteria I've seen is more due to menopause, hormone changes.
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Irene wrote
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"The innate features are things Plats all have like not wanting to be in a =
house, feeling better in sunshine, being big boned but having relatively sm=
all feet for their size, being born very tiny but growing to full and signi=
ficant adult size very young (before teenage years), being very compassiona=
te, but also very intelligent and sure of their knowledge (pedantically so)=
, having broad interests, being physically very active, having a good sense=
 of humor, having no artistic talent for drawing."  ...
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"Plat needs to have their way, and they will work very hard to get it. But =
if they are thwarted and can not find a way around it, (which they will wor=
k very hard to do) then that is when they can get riled up and potentially =
hysterical - especially when young" ...
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"Plat has no wish to be royal in any way. They want to be acknowledged for =
what matters to them regardless what matters to others, (which they do not =
care about).
 If they do work in specific areas, it will be advanced work and they like =
that to be acknowledged as good. They know when they are good at something,=
 and usually they are good at something"
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"They do not care how others see them. They are confident in what they cons=
ider their principles of life and stick by them, whatever others think. It =
has caused them to be called haughty. But the extended interpretation that =
they look down on others is a misinterpretation and not a typical Plat feat=
ure.
 It is more that they do what they think is right for themselves and do not=
 care what others think about that."
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Just the opposite on the physical here, bought big new house, loves being i=
n it, avoids sunshine lots of SPF sunscreen, fair, small boned and very pet=
ite, size 0, though heavy on the social injustice, physical activity, humor=
 and some Platina repertory rubrics and what Irene wrote on doing what they=
 consider their life principles, being right.  Does have some arrogance and=
 haughty-like behavior.=20
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Materia Medica says "Mental symptoms due to suppressed menses", this person=
 has had an endometrial ablation thus NO menses around 6 years ago which, b=
y accident I reversed by 2 years ago her proving Arnica which is for uterin=
e hemorrhages.=20=20=20
The proving caused her to menstruate again a few times, though that has les=
sened possibly due to menopause.=20
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Coincidentally has similar blonde hair and attention to beauty and looks as=
 Princess Diana and JonBenet Ramsey.
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Guess ? is, has anyone used Platina for a non-constitutional based on rubri=
cs that matched, possibly during menopause?
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Is there a Platina state w/o being a constitutional like being on birth con=
trol, suppressing menses??=20
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Are there male Platinas?
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Susan
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From: Irene de Villiers [email protected] [beyondhomeopathy] <beyondh=
[email protected]>
To: beyondhomeopathy <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 5:52 am
Subject: beyondhom Platina Constitutional


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On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:21 PM, [email protected]  wrote:

> Can Platina be considered someone's constitutional?=20

If it fits their inherited trait set, then yes.
All constitutional types are innate, as we are born with our innate constit=
utional type. (ICT).
 It can not change.

>  Have a 52 y/o female who fits well many of the rubrics and is in perimen=
opause.

That would not be a good way to look for Plat as an ICT. Rubrics in the rep=
ertory are hardly useful at all in Plat, as the normal features of Plat are=
 almost entirely missing.

> Some of the rubrics fit this stage of life, hysterical at times.or is it =
a Platina pathology advancing?

Most PLAT ICTs  are never hysterical. The hysterical action is only one pos=
sible pathological response in some plat types in some specific circumstanc=
es. Normally they handle stress exceptionally well. Hysteria will occur onl=
y in extreme conditions when something that means everything to them is rem=
oved against their will and with their  having no control over it. Plat nee=
ds to have their way, and they will work very hard to get it. But if they a=
re thwarted and can not find a way around it, (which they will work very ha=
rd to do) then that is when they can get riled up and potentially hysterica=
l - especially when young. For exampe if someone kills their favorite pet, =
that will set them off, and may cause hysterical behavior. (Injustice upset=
s them in general - injustice to anyone.)

The fact that they MAY be hysterical in some specific types of circumstance=
s, does not make hysterical people all Plats.
 That would be like saying that if you have green shoelaces, then everythin=
g green is a shoelace.
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> I remember in school Princess Diana was thought to be Platina.

No she was not, wrong physique and personality altogether.

>  Is Platina behavior innate or more acquired?=20

ALL of the Plat permanent and common feaures are innate, but the pathologic=
al ones in the repertory are not innate features but possible susceptibilit=
ies that may be shown by one of more Plats.
The innate features are things Plats all have like not wanting to be in a h=
ouse, feeling better in sunshine, being big boned but having relatively sma=
ll feet for their size, being born very tiny but growing to full and signif=
icant adult size very young (before teenage years), being very compassionat=
e, but also very intelligent and sure of their knowledge (pedantically so),=
 having broad interests, being physically very active, having a good sense =
of humor, having no artistic talent for drawing.

There is a huge difference between the common features of all Plats (like t=
he few listed above), and the potential disease susceptibilities which a pl=
at MIGHT have during their lifetime (as are listed in the repertory).
This applies to all ICTs, not just Plat.
We get a VERY skewed view in the repertory, as it  documents disease suscep=
tibility symptoms rather than ICT features. Some personality features get i=
n there almost by accident, adn others get exaggerated pout of all proporti=
on due to misperception or assumption of the person documenting them, but i=
t is not the intention to document ICT types in the repertory, and they are=
 mostly missing as a result.

>  Thinking little princesses,

Not a Plat feature at all:-)
Plat has no wish to be royal in any way. They want to be acknowledged for w=
hat matters to them regardless what matters to others, (which they do not c=
are about).
If they do work in specific areas, it will be advanced work and they like t=
hat to be acknowledged as good. They know when they are good at something, =
and usually they are good at something.=20

> beauty pageant children

Not a Plat feature either. They do not care how others see them. They are c=
onfident in what they consider their principles of life and stick by them, =
whatever others think. It has caused them to be called haughty. But the ext=
ended interpretation that they look down on others is a misinterpretation a=
nd not a typical Plat feature.
It is more that they do what they think is right for themselves and do not =
care what others think about that.

> , like JonBen=C3=A9t Ramsey who may be coerced into that behavior.

It was her mother who got her into pageants. Nothing suggesting Plat there.

>  For those not familiar, her pic is here and she has a Platina "look"=20

Really???  What is a "Platina" look in your opinion?
And what do you go on to call it one?
Are you looking at facial feature ratios or what?
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> Anyone treat a Platina?

Yes, four of them.
One human, two cats, one llama.
I know of another couple of human Plats but not ones I treated.
It is NOT a common type at all. It is one of the rare ICTs, but very recogn=
izable once you have known a few.

Namaste,
   Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


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ina 200C water dose, 1 teaspoon, once per day, for 4 days.</font></div>

<div>Each day they said they felt calmer and slept better and I could tell =
on phone they sounded much calmer.</div>

<div>Last dose was Friday, I said take no more, so had 4 doses.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Sunday, had a period, which was 2 weeks after last period.&nbsp; Has b=
een having a period about every 2 months, extremely light, says "invisible"=
, since proving Arnica 2 years ago reversing an endometrial ablation&nbsp;w=
hich stopped it. </div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Said this period was heavier than the previous ones but not abnormal, =
more like periods when younger.and&nbsp;not as heavy as the ones which led =
to having an endometrial ablation to stop them.&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Wants to take the remedy again because&nbsp;felt it&nbsp;was very calm=
ing and said stopped obsessive&nbsp;thinking which is now starting again. <=
/div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Any thoughts if having this period&nbsp;is a proving or resuming a nat=
ural menstrual cycle and normal flow which was stopped from an endometrial =
ablation&nbsp;but partially restored after proving Arnica?</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>I'm thinking the period came 2 days after last dose, if a proving, sho=
uld it have happened sooner? </div>

<div>Other thought is calmness isn't long lasting and needs more frequent d=
osing.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Susan</div>

<div>&nbsp; </div>

<div>&nbsp; </div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

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From: healthyinfo6 &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>
To: beyondhomeopathy &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 9:09 am<br>
Subject: Re: beyondhom Platina Constitutional<br>
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<div>I didn't think this person is ICT&nbsp;constitutional Platina.&nbsp; <=
/div>





<div>The hysteria I've seen is more due to menopause, hormone changes.</div=
>





<div>&nbsp;</div>





<div>Irene wrote</div>



<div><em></em>&nbsp;</div>



<div><em>"The innate features are things Plats all have like not wanting to=
 be in a house, feeling better in sunshine, being big boned but having rela=
tively small feet for their size, being born very tiny but growing to full =
and significant adult size very young (before teenage years), being very co=
mpassionate, but also very intelligent and sure of their knowledge (pedanti=
cally so), having broad interests, being physically very active, having a g=
ood sense of humor, having no artistic talent for drawing."&nbsp; ...</em><=
/div>



<div><em></em>&nbsp;</div>



<div><em>"Plat needs to have their way, and they will work very hard to get=
 it. But if they are thwarted and can not find a way around it, (which they=
 will work very hard to do) then that is when they can get riled up and pot=
entially hysterical - especially when young" ...</em></div>



<div><em></em>&nbsp;</div>



<div><em>"Plat has no wish to be royal in any way. They want to be acknowle=
dged for what matters to them regardless what matters to others, (which the=
y do not care about).<br>

 If they do work in specific areas, it will be advanced work and they like =
that to be acknowledged as good. They know when they are good at something,=
 and usually they are good at something"</em></div>



<div><em></em>&nbsp;</div>



<div><em>"They do not care how others see them. They are confident in what =
they consider their principles of life and stick by them, whatever others t=
hink. It has caused them to be called haughty. But the extended interpretat=
ion that they look down on others is a misinterpretation and not a typical =
Plat feature.<br>

 It is more that they do what they think is right for themselves and do not=
 care what others think about that."</em></div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Just the opposite on the physical here, bought big new house, loves be=
ing in it, avoids sunshine lots of SPF sunscreen, fair, small boned and ver=
y petite, size 0, though heavy on the social injustice, physical activity, =
humor and some Platina repertory rubrics and what Irene wrote on doing what=
 they consider&nbsp;their life principles, being right.&nbsp; Does have som=
e arrogance and haughty-like behavior. </div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Materia Medica says "Mental symptoms due to suppressed menses", this p=
erson has had an endometrial ablation thus NO menses&nbsp;around 6 years ag=
o which, by accident I reversed by 2 years ago her proving Arnica which is =
for uterine hemorrhages.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>



<div>The proving caused her to menstruate again a few times, though that ha=
s lessened possibly due to menopause. </div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Coincidentally has similar blonde hair and attention to beauty and loo=
ks&nbsp;as Princess Diana and JonBenet Ramsey.</div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Guess ? is, has anyone used Platina for a non-constitutional based on =
rubrics that matched, possibly during menopause?</div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Is there a Platina state w/o being a constitutional like being on birt=
h control, suppressing menses?? </div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Are there male Platinas?</div>



<div>&nbsp;</div>



<div>Susan</div>



<div>&nbsp; </div>



<div>&nbsp; <br>


</div>





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[email protected]</a> [beyondhomeopathy] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:beyondhomeopat=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>


To: beyondhomeopathy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
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Sent: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 5:52 am<br>


Subject: beyondhom Platina Constitutional<br>


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On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:21 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">health=
[email protected]</a>  wrote:<br>



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&gt; Can Platina be considered someone's constitutional? <br>



<br>



If it fits their inherited trait set, then yes.<br>



All constitutional types are innate, as we are born with our innate constit=
utional type. (ICT).<br>



 It can not change.<br>



<br>



&gt;  Have a 52 y/o female who fits well many of the rubrics and is in peri=
menopause.<br>



<br>



That would not be a good way to look for Plat as an ICT. Rubrics in the rep=
ertory are hardly useful at all in Plat, as the normal features of Plat are=
 almost entirely missing.<br>



<br>



&gt; Some of the rubrics fit this stage of life, hysterical at times.or is =
it a Platina pathology advancing?<br>



<br>



Most PLAT ICTs  are never hysterical. The hysterical action is only one pos=
sible pathological response in some plat types in some specific circumstanc=
es. Normally they handle stress exceptionally well. Hysteria will occur onl=
y in extreme conditions when something that means everything to them is rem=
oved against their will and with their  having no control over it. Plat nee=
ds to have their way, and they will work very hard to get it. But if they a=
re thwarted and can not find a way around it, (which they will work very ha=
rd to do) then that is when they can get riled up and potentially hysterica=
l - especially when young. For exampe if someone kills their favorite pet, =
that will set them off, and may cause hysterical behavior. (Injustice upset=
s them in general - injustice to anyone.)<br>



<br>



The fact that they MAY be hysterical in some specific types of circumstance=
s, does not make hysterical people all Plats.<br>



 That would be like saying that if you have green shoelaces, then everythin=
g green is a shoelace.<br>



&gt; <br>



&gt; I remember in school Princess Diana was thought to be Platina.<br>



<br>



No she was not, wrong physique and personality altogether.<br>



<br>



&gt;  Is Platina behavior innate or more acquired? <br>



<br>



ALL of the Plat permanent and common feaures are innate, but the pathologic=
al ones in the repertory are not innate features but possible susceptibilit=
ies that may be shown by one of more Plats.<br>



The innate features are things Plats all have like not wanting to be in a h=
ouse, feeling better in sunshine, being big boned but having relatively sma=
ll feet for their size, being born very tiny but growing to full and signif=
icant adult size very young (before teenage years), being very compassionat=
e, but also very intelligent and sure of their knowledge (pedantically so),=
 having broad interests, being physically very active, having a good sense =
of humor, having no artistic talent for drawing.<br>



<br>



There is a huge difference between the common features of all Plats (like t=
he few listed above), and the potential disease susceptibilities which a pl=
at MIGHT have during their lifetime (as are listed in the repertory).<br>



This applies to all ICTs, not just Plat.<br>



We get a VERY skewed view in the repertory, as it  documents disease suscep=
tibility symptoms rather than ICT features. Some personality features get i=
n there almost by accident, adn others get exaggerated pout of all proporti=
on due to misperception or assumption of the person documenting them, but i=
t is not the intention to document ICT types in the repertory, and they are=
 mostly missing as a result.<br>



<br>



&gt;  Thinking little princesses,<br>



<br>



Not a Plat feature at all:-)<br>



Plat has no wish to be royal in any way. They want to be acknowledged for w=
hat matters to them regardless what matters to others, (which they do not c=
are about).<br>



If they do work in specific areas, it will be advanced work and they like t=
hat to be acknowledged as good. They know when they are good at something, =
and usually they are good at something. <br>



<br>



&gt; beauty pageant children<br>



<br>



Not a Plat feature either. They do not care how others see them. They are c=
onfident in what they consider their principles of life and stick by them, =
whatever others think. It has caused them to be called haughty. But the ext=
ended interpretation that they look down on others is a misinterpretation a=
nd not a typical Plat feature.<br>



It is more that they do what they think is right for themselves and do not =
care what others think about that.<br>



<br>



&gt; , like JonBen=C3=A9t Ramsey who may be coerced into that behavior.<br>



<br>



It was her mother who got her into pageants. Nothing suggesting Plat there.=
<br>



<br>



&gt;  For those not familiar, her pic is here and she has a Platina "look" =
<br>



<br>



Really???  What is a "Platina" look in your opinion?<br>



And what do you go on to call it one?<br>



Are you looking at facial feature ratios or what?<br>



&gt; <br>



&gt; Anyone treat a Platina?<br>



<br>



Yes, four of them.<br>



One human, two cats, one llama.<br>



I know of another couple of human Plats but not ones I treated.<br>



It is NOT a common type at all. It is one of the rare ICTs, but very recogn=
izable once you have known a few.<br>



<br>



Namaste,<br>



   Irene<br>



--<br>



Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.<br>



P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.<br>



<a href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html" target=3D=
"_blank">www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html</a> (Veterinary Hom=
eopath.)<br>



"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."<br>



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