Re: capacity v bandwidth

The proceedings of those early meetings are on line as scanned PDF,
at https://www.ietf.org/meeting/past/

For example, in the proceedings of IETF 9 (San Diego, March 1988)
there are ~18 mentions of "router" and ~63 of "gateway".
(Approximate numbers because there might be OCR errors in the PDF.)

By IETF 17 (Pittsburgh, May 1990) there were ~94 "routers" and
~65 "gateways".

Somebody asked about very old IETF mail archives. As far as I can tell,
the IETF has an archive of its main list from Thu, 09 April 1992 01:51 UTC
onwards, when the list was still at [email protected]. Any earlier archive
would be of interest and I'm sure they would tack it on.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/?so=date

(Thence, I was led to my own first-ever message to the IETF list:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/8XWGMC_iHsUWlbsnswyeuo6n_-8/ )

As of right now, that archive contains 146146 messages.

Regards/Ngā mihi
    Brian Carpenter

On 03-Jun-26 05:28, Noel Chiappa via Internet-history wrote:
>      > From: Barbara Denny
> 
>      > I doubt it was discussed in a hallway. To me the early meetings were
>      > more like a DARPA meeting ... Everyone was in one room as far as I knew.
>      > The number of people attending was not that high.
> 
> IETF meetings very quickly became fairly sizeable. From the meeting list I
> linked to earlier:
> 
>    1st IETF	21 Attendees	January, 1986; San Diego
>    2nd IETF	21 Attendees	April, 1986; Aberdeen
>    3rd IETF	18 Attendees	July, 1986; Ann Arbor
>    4th IETF	35 Attendees	October, 1986; Menlo Park
>    5th IETF	35 Attendees	February, 1987; Moffett Field
>    6th IETF	88 Attendees	April, 1987; Boston
>    7th IETF	101 Attendees	July, 1987; McLean
>    8th IETF	56 Attendees	November, 1987; Boulder
>    9th IETF	82 Attendees	March, 1988; San Diego
>    10th IETF	112 Attendees	June, 1988; Annapolis
>    11th IETF	114 Attendees	October, 1988; Ann Arbor
>    12th IETF	120 Attendees	January, 1989; Austin
>    13th IETF	114 Attendees	April, 1989; Cocoa Beach
> 
> With the timeframe that Brian deduced for the gateway/router change - between
> June 1988 and June 1989 - the initial growth had pretty clearly taken off.
> 
> (The 7th, in McLean, was almost certainly the one where I remember Phill, Dan
> Lynch and I sitting in a bar at the end of the day chanting 'It's time to get
> real'; no doubt it being the first one with more than 100 attendees
> contributedto that thinking.)
> 
> 	Noel
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