Re: New rating scheme at K5
"Mark Wilson" <[email protected]> Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:38:42 -0700
| Newsgroups | gmane.culture.internet.p2p-journalism |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
If we're going to coin new phrases like "the Slashdot trap," then we need to discuss the reason why Slashdot has such a trolling problem in the first place. A troller isn't all that different from a grade school bully, they're just looking for attention. Slashdot's reactionary, knee-jerk approach to dealing with new types of troll attacks just encourages the trollers to find new ways to abuse the system. In this respect, K5's new rating system has already begun to wreck the signal-to-noise ratio. Meanwhile, take a look at the hidden comments section. There is not a single piece of worthless spam to be found and very, very few comments that are so offensive that they should be censored from an adult discussion site. I suppose Rusty has silenced the handful of vocal censoristas that peck at his in-box for the moment, but he's done so at great cost to the journalistic integrity of his site. Unpopular opinions should not be censored, and Rusty knew that and made it a top goal of K5 when he created the site, otherwise he wouldn't have made the 0 rating so powerless to begin with. The only saving grace of the new changes, and the only reason why I still use K5 as my primary online discussion site, was the added ability to ignore ratings entirely. The minimum vote quota has already made the ratings system mostly useless anyway. The idea that you can change people's human behavior and make them vote more often simply because otherwise the voting system will be broke is incredibly silly. I don't see the problem with rewarding users with meaningless karma and mojo rewards. Motivated users make better discussions and the really smart ones aren't really going to be jockeying for points anyway. If I were in the driver's seat, I'd return to the points based system, but take it in the other direction. Give all trusted users the option of laying down a six, but only one a day. Not so much power that trollers will be building up extra accounts, but just enough motivation for people to concentrate and save their daily point for a really, shining comment that deserves to rise above the fray. As it is now, there isn't much rising above the fray, because enough people have to be motivated enough to sort through the cruft and all spontaneously decide to pick one comment enough times to make it's rating show. If people are still whining about comments they disagree with, give them the option of SETTING THEIR OWN CENSORSHIP THRESHOLD. Default this to an insanely low number (like the old mod system's < 1), since the number one threat to an open, online discussion is the threat of censorship. If you're still worried about troller cabals rating up zero'd comments, this should solve the problem, since the trollers in question will have no idea how hard they should work to annoy the reactionary, sensitive types that whine about this sort of stuff. _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _______________________________________________ P2PJ mailing list [email protected] http://lists.infoanarchy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/p2pj http://www.infoanarchy.org - daily p2p news