RE: [esper-inform] Chu iu povas reagi en la angla al chi tiu intervjuo?
Brian Barker <[email protected]>
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Mi respondis antau kelkaj tagoj perposhte kaj al Peter Austin kaj al la intervjuisto che SOAS kaj sendis presitan (koloran) eldonon de http://ikso.net/broshuro/pdf/malkovru_esperanton_en.pdf en la angla lingvo. Bondezirojn. Brian Barker Lang House, Ward Road LONDON N19 5ED http://www.esperantolobby.net To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] CC: [email protected]; [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:30:20 +0200 Subject: [esper-inform] Chu iu povas reagi en la angla al chi tiu intervjuo? Da: Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven [mailto:[email protected]] Saluton! Por mi chiam denove estas surprize, kun kiom da memfido lingvistaj profesoroj prezentas siajn nesciojn, erarojn kaj supozojn pri Esperanto. Jam trifoje mi spertis tion en germanaj radio kaj televido. Mi multe preferus, se ili bonvolus verki sciencan artikolon pri siaj tezoj (tiam iu alia povus reagi) au citi el la verkoj de iu, kiu bone konas la temon... Sed anstataue ekzemple Peter Austin asertas pri Esperanto, ke "baze ghi estas nenies lingvo" kaj ke ghi estus same malfacila por chino au japano kiel aliaj europaj lingvoj... Eble estus helpo, se kelkaj azianoj povus reagi; la radio havas ankau paghon che Facebook http://www.facebook.com/soasradio . Por povi pli bone prijughi mi notis, kion diris Peter Austin, profesoro de la 'School of Oriental and African Languages', University of London, pri Esperanto, ekde la momento 12:30 (minutoj:sekundoj) de <http://soasradio.org/esperanto> http://soasradio.org/esperanto . Supozeble enestas kelkaj auskult- kaj skriberaroj. Eble iu shatos korekti mian tekston, por ke ankau aliaj havos la eblecon skribe vidi tion por povi pli bone reagi. (Mi ne notis chiujn 'eh' kaj vortripetojn.) Chu iu el vi sendis komenton al la retejo? Mi mem sendis - sed shajne oni ne publikigis ghis nun. Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven EsperantoLand -- Interviewer: And finally, I'm dying to ask you this question. We believe, as you said, some time, you know, lack of technology, lack of ressources. Now think about the language called Esperanto. You know, it was invented, if you could please, you know, tell us why Esperanto didn't succeed. Peter Austin: Well, Esperanto was invented by Dr Zamenhof as a, what he saw, as being a solution to all the sort of conflict between people speaking different languages and his idea was that, it was meant to be a neutral language, that..., it was developed in Poland, he was polish and so he wanted to have a sort of neutral language that would allow Poles and Russians and Germans and, you know, French people and so on to talk to one another. So why didn't it succeed. I mean, there is a big community of people who support it, there is thousands of people who know, who have been studying Esperanto and they have international conferences every year and they translate books into Esperanto and so on. There is a very enthusiastic community of people. But it hasn't been more broadly successful, because basically it's nobodies language, nobody associates themselves as being their primary language and he always saw it as what he called an auxiliary language, a kind of second, you know, additional language just for communication. So I guess the whole thing about it, you know, nobody owns it, nobody really associates themselves with it. The second factor is that, although he saw it as an international language, it's very european in terms of the way its organized, its grammatical structure, its vocabulary. It's as difficult for somebody from Japan or China to learn Esperanto as it is for them to learn English or French or German. Right? So it's, it's difficult... because all the words, the basic words and basic roots are european ones, they come from all sorts of european languages but they are european. Then... If you are a speaker of Chinese, why would you bother learning Esperanto, when you can learn English with 500 million speakers or learn German with a hundred million speakers or French with, you know, a hundred million speakers and so on. So you have to invest almost the same amount of time and energy to learn Esperanto, but the benefit is much smaller, because you haven't got as many people to talk to in it. So because it's, it's not neutral, he kind of thought, it was a neutral language, but it's not neutral, it's a European language and people have to learn it in the same way they have to learn foreign languages, so there is really no benefit to somebody outside of Europe, not as much benefit anyway to somebody outside Europe ... to learn Esperanto, because it is..., you get more benefit from learning these bigger languages. Interviewer: Professor Peter Austin, thank you very much for coming to afcabit(?) Peter Austin: You are welcome. Am 11.06.2011 04:49, schrieb Brian Barker: Interview by School of Oriental and African Studies <http://soasradio.org/esperanto> http://soasradio.org/esperanto Listen here - <http://soasradio.org/sites/default/files/podcasts/ELW_2011_-_Armando_interviews_Peter_Austin_edited_0.mp3> http://soasradio.org/sites/default/files/podcasts/ELW_2011_-_Armando_interviews_Peter_Austin_edited_0.mp3 Please reply to <http://soasradio.org/comment/reply/1695#comment-form> http://soasradio.org/comment/reply/1695#comment-form Thanks Brian Brian Barker Lang House, Ward Road LONDON N19 5ED http://www.esperantolobby.net <http://www.esperantolobby.net/> -- Lu Wunsch-Rolshoven EsperantoLand Internaciaj ferioj Novjara Renkontigho (NR) Novjara Internacia Semajno (NIS) PRINTEMPE Internacia Kongreso (IK) SOMERE http://www.esperantoland.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]