Re: they won't allow you to use facts to embarrass them

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 01:39:29PM -0700, Lee Passey wrote:
> On 11/24/2012 11:12 PM, James Adcock wrote:
> >IMHO the best solution to keep customers from downloading crap versions is
> >not to offer them -- or to fix them.
> 
> Ahh, but that kind of begs the question doesn't it? We don't want to
> keep people from downloading crap versions, we just want to be sure
> they /know/ they're getting crap versions. And how are we going to
> know that any particular version /is/ a crap version?
> 
> What we do know, is that we can't trust the opinion of Marcello
> Perathoner, James Adcock, David Widger, Bruce Morasch, Greg Newby or
> even Lee Passey. We /can/ probably trust the quality of HTML books
> produced of late by Distributed Proofreaders, but it would appear
> that no one is interested in downloading the recent work product of
> DP.

:)

> So, you have failed to address Mr. Newby's core question, which is
> "how do we determine the quality of any arbitrary PG edition?" I'm
> sure that any concrete proposal you would care to make would be
> genuinely appreciated.

Karen's suggestion isn't that far from what we can do now, and
actually have done in practice: a note in the bibrec.  The bibrec for
#11 says to also look at #928.  These are added by hand... any of the
team at gutcat-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] can add them (usually Andrew Sly does
these, but Marcello and I also tweak the records).

Currently, the bibrec is not the main "tab" (see
www.gutenberg.org/etext/11 if you're not sure what I'm talking about).
But I'm sure the Note could appear on the Download tab instead. 

A simple technique to raise awareness of alternate versions would be
to add them to the bibrec as a Note.  There might be some situations
when there is ambiguity in whether a note really refers to an
alternate edition of the same book.  This applies with Alice, for
example: 11, 114, 928, 19033, 19573, 23716, 28885.

And,
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain                        32325
Audio: Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain                     19640
Audio: Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain                                    9007C
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 8, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7107
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 7, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7106
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 6, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7105
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 5, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7104
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 4, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7103
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 3, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7102
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 2, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7101
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 1, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)    7100
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain                               76

So, as usual, things are not completely simple.

Editing the bibrec is easy enough to do.  I encourage people with an
interest to simply email "like" records, and we can edit them in.  The
Note field is flexible, and can be duplicated within a bibrec.

  -- Greg 
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