Re: Neat summary of Google strategy
Mary E Tyler <[email protected]>
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>> Indeed. Think about the "Cached" link in most Google
>> search results.
>
> This has not been tested in a court so far as I know, and my
> opinion remains that Google has no right to place copyright
> matter on a permanent [in the meaning of persistent beyond
> technical need rather than for all time] database. All
> copying is copyright and is in the gift of the rightsowner
> with just one or two exceptions - mostly under fair use
> [U.S.] and fair dealing [U.K.].
Joe, you do "have a choice" and you do have the means to prevent this.
Use "nofollow" and your robots.txt file and you can exempt your WHOLE
SITE from Google cache and index. And for that, you have to accept the
risk of obscurity that goes with not being in a search engine. While
it may be a tacit deal, it IS a deal and Google offers something of
value in return for making a couple of copies of your page. I usually
say that 'exposure" is of no value unless it's EXPOSURE. And being in
the Google index is exposure that is EXPOSURE. It's of value. And, I
do believe that Google could make a very good argument that their
index and associated cache fall under fair use.You could, I suppose,
litigate it.
The thing about copyright is that the rightsholder is still expected
to litigate violations (except in certain circumstances). I don't
think you will find a US attorney who is dumb enough to try to
litigate a search engine's cache. But you could try it. I'm not sure
you'd find a judge dumb enough to take the case, because not only do
you have another option for preventing a cache copy from being made,
you can also send a DMCA takedown and very likely get removed from the
cache and index altogether.
I don't think this one could be litigated without involving a lot of
laughter at your expense.
>> For some originators, like book illustrators, there is not
> even a payment in prospect. The weakness of the system for a
> rightsowner is that Google chooses opt-out; i.e. it assumes
> the right of someone else.
Which would have ALL been solved had congress done something useful
with orphan works in the last session. They refused to. Orphan works
are a BIG problem. Google's settlement may not be the best route, but
it's the only one that's actually been worked out by anyone. At some
point, SOMETHING must be done about orphan works.
dej
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