Re: Re: What kinds of Books are pirated and made into EBooks?
Erica Frank <[email protected]>
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On 3/10/10, groovy_ahk <[email protected]> wrote: > My thoughts? > > You think stealing from authors is okay. Copyright infringement is not theft, any more than posting a negative review that convinces people not to buy the book is "stealing" from the author. Which doesn't mean it's okay--it's just not *theft.* And it's an important difference--because the people sharing files are very aware that they're not taking anything *away* from anyone else. They *might* be costing the author a sale--but they might not. They might just be providing entertainment to someone who "doesn't deserve it" because he hasn't paid for it. The moral issue of who "deserves" to read a book is very different from the moral issue of theft. > Your behavior is wrong. When electronic files are "shared" a new copy is made each time. > That means the COPYright is being violated. Copyright is a limited-term monopoly on certain types of business practices, created as an incentive to promote progress. When it stops working for that purpose, it's broken. Where it is impeding progress--locking orphaned works away from the public, preventing creative remixes, keeping the history of our arts hostage--it should be changed. And mass breaking of a law is one of the ways the public has of informing the lawmakers (who are heavily influenced by corporate interests) that they no longer consider this an immoral or dangerous act. > As someone else in this thread mentioned, thieves have not yet set up a public database, > informing us all which books they have stolen, how many of them were stolen, and the retail > price of each. As such, there is no way to know how much money we are losing because of > thieves. There is no retail price for the Harry Potter ebooks. There is a retail price for used Harry Potter physical books--most are available for under $2. So someone who has an ebook copy might be denying a store or a yard sale $2 per book. They're not necessarily denying the author anything, because authors don't get royalties on used books. > All we can do is thwart it when we find it. It's a constant battle. And you are part of the problem. There are other approaches besides "thwart it": provide incentives not to do it. Provide content in formats the public wants, at prices they're willing to pay, and copyright infringement will stop being a problem. Which doesn't mean it won't happen. There'll always be some starving student willing to read books twenty pages at a time while standing at the bookstore, and there'll always be someone willing to scan, OCR & format a book to hand to a friend instead of shelling out $6 for a paperback version. But those aren't the problem; they're not lost sales. Lost sales are the people who downloaded Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows on the day it came out, *in addition* to their two hardcover purchases (one for self, one for the kids). Lost sales are the ones who got a bootleg PDF because the Kindle version can't be read on their Sony reader. Lost sales are the ones who read Cory Doctorow's and Lawrence Lessig's newest books for free instead of buying something from Kobobooks because their customer service screwed over one of her friends. Authors don't need to prevent free downloads of their books nearly as much as they need to work on the real competition: inconvenience that turns people to those downloads, and obscurity that prevents people from seeking them at all. > Amy > http://www.crafte-revolution.com > > --- In [email protected], "Bill C" <bczygan@...> wrote: > What are your thoughts? > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Post a message: ebook-community [[at]] * > Unsubscribe: ebook-community-unsubscribe [[at]] * > Switch to digest: ebook-community-digest [[at]] * > Switch to normal: ebook-community-normal [[at]] * > Put mail on hold: ebook-community-nomail [[at]] * > Administrator: ebook-community-owner [[at]] * > > (* == yahoogroups.com) > -------------------------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- "I follow Eris blindly in all things. 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