Re: Re: concern at copyright ruling

[email protected]
Newsgroups gmane.culture.literature.ebook-community
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I know this worries many, but it feels as if it's not really worth the  
upset. People have been lending, giving away and reselling books 
since--probably  from the first time one was produced on papyrus.  From a marketing  
standpoint, it isn't all bad. It gets the word out, gets the buzz going. People  
here about the book and the author.  I know this may tick some off (and  
sure, we'd like to make a living from our writing), but we all want to share  
something of ourselves when we write. It's usually part of our motivation. 
I've  often said I'd rather have one of my poems published anonymously by Ann 
Landers  and have it read by millions than get credit (and royalties) from a 
poetry book  and get it read by 100.  
 
Just thinking this is a different way for us to look at it.  
 
Best, 
 

Carolyn  Howard-Johnson
I
nstructor for nearly a decade at the  renowned UCLA Extension Writers' 
Program 
Author of the multi  award-winning series of HowToDoItFrugally books 
including the second edition  honored by USA BOOK NEWS 

/ The Frugal Book Promoter: _http://budurl.com/FrugalBkPromo_ 
(http://budurl.com/FrugalBkPromo) 
/  Web site: _http://www.HowToDoItFrugally.com_ 
(http://www.howtodoitfrugally.com/)  
/  E-mail: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
/  Facebook: _http://Facebook.com/carolynhowardjohnson_ 
(http://facebook.com/carolynhowardjohnson) 
/ Twitter: _http://Twitter.com/FrugalBookPromo_ 
(http://twitter.com/FrugalBookPromo) 
/ Pinterest: _http://Pinterest.com/chowardjohnson_ 
(http://pinterest.com/chowardjohnson) 

Let's Network Today!  

 
In a message dated 3/21/2013 10:36:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
 
 
On 3/21/13, josephHarris <_joe9438-/[email protected]_ 
(mailto:joe9438-/[email protected]) >  wrote:
>
> The report I read says the Thai student, while in the  US, advertised the
> books, and had his family in Thailand drop ship  them to the buyer. The
> money difference was such that all the costs  left a profit at a price
> below that i n the US. In effect the student  never owned them, and was
> actually running a business for profit with  effectively new books, in
> defiance of a copyright restriction [which  must, in my opinion, be a
> right if the US Constitutional copyright  entitlement is truly exclusive].

Can't see as that really makes a  difference. Whether he sold them
before he bought them or after, he (or his  agents) nonetheless owned
them for a period of time between them being sold  and them being sent
on to the people in the USA. It's the same principle as  typing in
_http://amazon.de_ (http://amazon.de/)  and logging in with my  Amazon.com 
user info to order
a DVD only available in Germany. He could  have bought them first, THEN
advertised and taken money for them, THEN  shipped them and it wouldn't
have made any difference in terms of the final  result.

> The majority assumed this was a matter of profit motive  [in any case a
> requirement under company law], but it is likely  something else. WIPO
> has long been encouraging getting western  education books to poorer
> countries at special concessions - mostly  price, of course. This would
> only be possible with regional licencing,  the very thing the justices
> have weakened. Judge Chin, in the Google  Book Agreement case, was more
> sensitive to international implications  and consequences; part of the
> reason the case is unresolved nearly  five years in.

It's not exactly a new issue. Media producers have long  understood
that, in order to make sales to places with much lower  per-capita
income, it had to price its products lower. This wasn't such a  big
deal in the days before the Internet, but even back when  they
introduced DVDs the studios saw the problem looming. That's why  they
implemented that asinine, poorly-thought-out system of  regional
countermeasures--which consumers promptly ignored, thanks to  the
prevalence of region-free DVD players. Restraint of trade  through
means technological--and thanks to the DMCA, technically illegal  to
crack. (Like that ever stopped anyone.)

It's hard to see how this  can be solved in a way that doesn't, as I
noted elsewhere, encourage  publishers to move production overseas to
try to kill the second-hand  market. We KNOW how much publishers in any
medium hate second-hand sales.  That's why video game publishers are
slapping obnoxious DRM on their  products (see the recent SimCity
debacle), so that people can't resell what  they buy. I have a hard
time believing a lot of book publishers wouldn't  take advantage of any
means necessary to require people to buy new  only.

-- 
Chris Meadows aka | WWW: _http://www.terrania.us_ (http://www.terrania.us/) 
 |  Somebody
Robotech_Master | ICQ: 5477383 AIM: RoboMastr | help, I'm
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  |  Skype, 
LJ-Gizmo: Robotech_Master | trapped in
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  | Facebook:  
Robotech.Master | a sig file!





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------
Post a message:   ebook-community [[at]] *
Unsubscribe:      ebook-community-unsubscribe [[at]] *
Switch to digest: ebook-community-digest [[at]] *
Switch to normal: ebook-community-normal [[at]] *
Put mail on hold: ebook-community-nomail [[at]] *
Administrator:    ebook-community-owner [[at]] *

(* == yahoogroups.com)
-------------------------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ebook-community/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ebook-community/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    [email protected] 
    ebook-community-fullfeatured-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    ebook-community-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.