Re: New Here

In my opinion science as we know it, is just uncovering bits of the 
gears of creation in its natural/supernatural state. It proves 
nothing positively, just gives us foundation and basic understanding 
as we survey our surroundings and process these findings through our 
bio-computers, as a means of survival. Nothing in this universe or 
creation is static, only near static. As for being animals before 
anyone knew what that was, that tends to say we have always been 
primitive or primeval creatures, which have only recently evolved. I 
highly disagree with that. There are things in this universe that we 
can't even begin to understand or standardize yet or ever. There are 
things that I am aware of that you or others may never comprehend, 
and vice versa, no matter how etymologically or semantically 
sophisticated we become, etc. 

The evidence for the beginning of human technological and 
cultural/social life outside of this world is overwhelming. To 
declare that one understands and knows exactly what we are, is the 
same declaration that god exists because we exist. An animal is just 
a classification we stamped upon ourselves and other creatures, to 
help us define ourselves, and universe. Just because we look like 
other creatures and fit into the environment, and our physical make 
up acts like theirs is no substantial proof of anything, just gives 
some foundation for a theory. 

Even so, all creatures can be one creature as I believe, all 
connected by universal mind. All knowledge in this theory is built 
into us, through ideal forms, standards, numbers, etc. To say that 
there are five biological kingdoms is a sure thing, is to say that 
life is only limited to 5 kingdoms for sure. It should be thought of 
as 5 known kingdoms. Also, the more important thing is that this is such a 
little corner or level of our understanding of creation. It is merely 
a standardized classification set up, to identify things on this 
level of thought and understanding, so that we may move on to other 
levels and break through our own barriers of consciousness.

All knowledge will be contained locked inside the micro-universe of 
atomic structures, which is reflected in the macrocosm. Our sub-
conscious brains can access this storehouse of knowledge at once and 
instantaneously, yet never upload this information directly or 
completely. Our consciousness can be fired up into the super-
conscious state, but the overwhelming amount of knowledge will either 
fry your brain or shutdown other aspects of your mental abilities. It 
is conceivable that somewhere in the universe that there is a bio-
computer that can consciously handle such vast amounts of knowledge, 
and in the coming age humans will genetically engineer far greater 
human conscious abilities. This is part of our next stage of 
development, along with artificial intelligence.

Humans and other higher beings, many on earth, cannot be classified 
among other creatures or lifeforms any longer, because we are on the 
path to becoming super-beings mentally/spiritually and 
physically/materially. Our imaginary modern yet primitive 
classification of being animals cannot be tagged upon us any longer 
as we rise to higher more idealistically spiritual and hopefully 
realistically carnal civilization, that doesn't force dogma upon 
everyone through civil laws that oppress us, as judeo-christians do 
today. Being a believer in balance, I am a Mystic that supports all 
Advancing Science and Technological Leaps, which are pure, unbiased, 
and uncorrupt because of capitalistic, career making, or 
political/religious interests. This will be difficult because of our 
primeval natures, our programming, yet we can work with them, not 
against them. 



--- In [email protected], "Staci Harris 
<vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> Actually, science has proven what we are...which is a good thing.  
MY 
> college bio professor said the only sure thing in science is the 
five 
> biological kingdoms.  He says it (the five biological kingdoms) was 
a 
> human discovery but we didn't invent it...we were animals before 
> anyone knew what that was, just like gravity existed before anyone 
> knew about it.  
> 
> How could your school not have biology?  Isn't that slightly 
illegal?
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], caesarmystika999 
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > What else would we be? What is the alternative you're referring 
to? 
> > Also, to argue that, what is an animal? It is just a basic 
> > standardized classification we give to certain types of 
lifeforms. 
> We 
> > truly have no idea what we are, where we are, why we are, or how 
we 
> > got here? So, stating that we are animals is a fact is rather 
> > simplistic and even human arrogance to believe that we actually 
> know 
> > much about ourselves or our surroundings, all based upon the 
actual 
> > facts! So, what are we? What is an animal, if it's only a tag we 
> > invented to classify ourselves? I could go on and on. Anyhow, 
they 
> > didn't even have biology in my high school.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris 
> > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > It is still a fact that humans are animals though...that fact 
> > really 
> > > has nothing to do with evolution, which is a theory.  Our being 
> > > animals is, however, a fact.  Anyone who took basic 6th grade 
> > biology 
> > > knows that.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], caesarmystika999 
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > Actually, the truth is, evolution is only a theory, which 
> cannot 
> > as 
> > > > of yet be proven completely. It is the firm belief of this 
> Church 
> > > and 
> > > > Myself that many of the races on this planet did not come 
from 
> > > > monkeys at all, but come from extraterrestrial races of 
humans 
> or 
> > > > other beings much more superior and complex than us, or that 
we 
> > > were 
> > > > genetically created by them. There is much more evidence 
> > suggesting 
> > > > this theory than an evolutionary one. Therefore, the stand of 
> > this 
> > > > Church is one that says evolution is only a partial truth, if 
> > even 
> > > > that. The science needed to explore these theories further 
does 
> > not 
> > > > yet exist. The DNA technologies are still in their infancies 
> and 
> > > are 
> > > > very flawed, and being manipulated by certain groups, some 
> > > religious, 
> > > > others more scientific.
> > > > 
> > > > Our Church is a firm supporter of science, especially new age 
> > > > sciences, which will be used to raise humanity to a state of 
> > super-
> > > > human immortality. This may be a state of existence we once 
> > > attained 
> > > > or were part of. In these coming years, science will begin to 
> > merge 
> > > > with many religious theories, for example a form of 
creationism 
> > > > combining with evolution, or what is considered natural as 
> > opposed 
> > > to 
> > > > supernatural will begin to integrate into a kind of union, 
like 
> > the 
> > > > way we understand light as both particles and waves.
> > > > 
> > > > Even the eve, out of africa theory has been blown out of the 
> > water. 
> > > > It is ridiculous to believe that we all came out of africa. 
> They 
> > > > based their tests on a belief that only women carry the alien 
> > > > mitochondria in our cells to survive, but it has now been 
> > > discovered 
> > > > that men pass it on, which completely flaws their theory. In 
> this 
> > > new 
> > > > age most sciences and laws will be completely rewritten, even 
> > > > medicine will undergo a total transformation, possibly 
reviving 
> > old 
> > > > theories that were discarded, but actually turn out to be 
> > correct. 
> > > > The laws and beliefs of medicine, physics, and mathematics, 
> etc., 
> > > are 
> > > > constantly changing, especially with the new age discoveries 
of 
> > > > quantum physics, advanced biochemistry, etc. Many of the 
> ancient 
> > > > sciences may have been remnants of higher civilizations. One 
> > > example 
> > > > is alchemy, which is one of the most advanced ancient 
sciences 
> > that 
> > > > combine spirituality, medicine, and chemistry, etc. This is 
the 
> > > pure 
> > > > foundation for our advanced biochemistry, and other sciences. 
> > > > Religious beliefs are certainly flawed, but may hold some 
keys 
> to 
> > > > unlocking the universe as well. Science is the future, but 
> > science 
> > > a 
> > > > religion as well!
> > > > 
> > > > Once many of the sciences are freed from greed, corruption, 
and 
> > > > economic suffocation/manipulation, we can begin to purify 
these 
> > > > sciences and many flaws, lies, and suppressions will be 
lifted. 
> > > Then 
> > > > a new age will truly dawn! The greatest advance will come 
when 
> > the 
> > > > majority of the health care systems are no longer tied to 
> > economics 
> > > > and no longer driven by the dollar, and personal wealth. This 
> > will 
> > > > create a Super-Spiritual Health Care System, a true 
Priesthood 
> > and 
> > > > Priestesshood. A True Healer does not go to school to become 
a 
> > > doctor 
> > > > for the money! Those that do can never be trusted! Advanced 
> > Health 
> > > > Care will be free to the majority, and more specialized 
> treatment 
> > > and 
> > > > care, will cost only those who are willing and can pay or 
> trade. 
> > > This 
> > > > does not mean younger classes cannot get specialized 
treatment, 
> > it 
> > > > simply means some people will want their own private doctors. 
> > Many 
> > > > changes are coming!    
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris 
> > > > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], 
> > > DstruktyvSoul666@a... 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I'm new to the group so I figured I might as well say 
hello 
> > to 
> > > > > everyone and 
> > > > > > introduce myself a little. My name is Catrina but 
everyone 
> > > calls 
> > > > me 
> > > > > Trina. 
> > > > > > I'm a 23 year old female mother of two. I was born sang, 
> > > pranic, 
> > > > > and empathic 
> > > > > > among other things and I've always been on the "darker" 
> side 
> > of 
> > > > > things to put 
> > > > > > it lightly. I've never gotten into the "god/jesus" 
> religions 
> > > even 
> > > > > though 
> > > > > > people in my family tried to force their belief system on 
> me 
> > at 
> > > a 
> > > > > very young 
> > > > > > age. It didn't get them very far and my aunt's church 
told 
> > her 
> > > to 
> > > > > never bring 
> > > > > > me back when I was 7 because I was asking questions about 
> all 
> > > the 
> > > > > shit that 
> > > > > > made no sense within their religion and they had no 
answers 
> > so 
> > > I 
> > > > > guess it 
> > > > > > pissed them off. My family finally gave up after that so 
I 
> > > guess 
> > > > it 
> > > > > was a win 
> > > > > > win situation. Well, that's my intro.
> > > > > > Later,
> > > > > > Trina
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi!  I am also new. I am 26 and am with the love of my 
life.  
> > We 
> > > > have 
> > > > > no kids yet...but we do have 4 cats.  I was raised Lutheran 
> by 
> > my 
> > > > > mother.  My father, who has been absent from my life since 
I 
> > was 
> > > > 14, 
> > > > > never told me that his grandparents were Jewish...a recent 
> > > > > discovery.  I am Wiccan/Unitarian, but I go by scientific 
> facts 
> > > > > first...humans are members of the animal kingdom, and 
> evolution 
> > > is 
> > > > > real.  I hate it when people are so blinded by religion 
that 
> > they 
> > > > > choose to ignore those facts.



DAMN THE CROSS!!! 

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