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What I meant was that we are members of the animal kingdom...that is
a fact that no educated person can deny. Like I said, the five
biological kingdoms is a fact that cannot be denied...although some
Xians would like it to be. Those 5 kingdoms were not invented by
humans, they were simply discovered by us...the kingdoms existed long
before anyone understood them...same as gravity existed before anyone
had a name for it.
Lucky me...I have always had science teachers that taught what was
fact (The five biological kingdoms, us being members of the animal
kingdom, etc) and what was theory (evolution), and the difference
between the two. Without knowing the facts all of us are just blind.
--- In [email protected], caesarmystika999
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> In my opinion science as we know it, is just uncovering bits of the
> gears of creation in its natural/supernatural state. It proves
> nothing positively, just gives us foundation and basic
understanding
> as we survey our surroundings and process these findings through
our
> bio-computers, as a means of survival. Nothing in this universe or
> creation is static, only near static. As for being animals before
> anyone knew what that was, that tends to say we have always been
> primitive or primeval creatures, which have only recently evolved.
I
> highly disagree with that. There are things in this universe that
we
> can't even begin to understand or standardize yet or ever. There
are
> things that I am aware of that you or others may never comprehend,
> and vice versa, no matter how etymologically or semantically
> sophisticated we become, etc.
>
> The evidence for the beginning of human technological and
> cultural/social life outside of this world is overwhelming. To
> declare that one understands and knows exactly what we are, is the
> same declaration that god exists because we exist. An animal is
just
> a classification we stamped upon ourselves and other creatures, to
> help us define ourselves, and universe. Just because we look like
> other creatures and fit into the environment, and our physical make
> up acts like theirs is no substantial proof of anything, just gives
> some foundation for a theory.
>
> Even so, all creatures can be one creature as I believe, all
> connected by universal mind. All knowledge in this theory is built
> into us, through ideal forms, standards, numbers, etc. To say that
> there are five biological kingdoms is a sure thing, is to say that
> life is only limited to 5 kingdoms for sure. It should be thought
of
> as 5 known kingdoms. Also, the more important thing is that this is
such a
> little corner or level of our understanding of creation. It is
merely
> a standardized classification set up, to identify things on this
> level of thought and understanding, so that we may move on to other
> levels and break through our own barriers of consciousness.
>
> All knowledge will be contained locked inside the micro-universe of
> atomic structures, which is reflected in the macrocosm. Our sub-
> conscious brains can access this storehouse of knowledge at once
and
> instantaneously, yet never upload this information directly or
> completely. Our consciousness can be fired up into the super-
> conscious state, but the overwhelming amount of knowledge will
either
> fry your brain or shutdown other aspects of your mental abilities.
It
> is conceivable that somewhere in the universe that there is a bio-
> computer that can consciously handle such vast amounts of
knowledge,
> and in the coming age humans will genetically engineer far greater
> human conscious abilities. This is part of our next stage of
> development, along with artificial intelligence.
>
> Humans and other higher beings, many on earth, cannot be classified
> among other creatures or lifeforms any longer, because we are on
the
> path to becoming super-beings mentally/spiritually and
> physically/materially. Our imaginary modern yet primitive
> classification of being animals cannot be tagged upon us any longer
> as we rise to higher more idealistically spiritual and hopefully
> realistically carnal civilization, that doesn't force dogma upon
> everyone through civil laws that oppress us, as judeo-christians do
> today. Being a believer in balance, I am a Mystic that supports all
> Advancing Science and Technological Leaps, which are pure,
unbiased,
> and uncorrupt because of capitalistic, career making, or
> political/religious interests. This will be difficult because of
our
> primeval natures, our programming, yet we can work with them, not
> against them.
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris
> <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > Actually, science has proven what we are...which is a good
thing.
> MY
> > college bio professor said the only sure thing in science is the
> five
> > biological kingdoms. He says it (the five biological kingdoms)
was
> a
> > human discovery but we didn't invent it...we were animals before
> > anyone knew what that was, just like gravity existed before
anyone
> > knew about it.
> >
> > How could your school not have biology? Isn't that slightly
> illegal?
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], caesarmystika999
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > What else would we be? What is the alternative you're referring
> to?
> > > Also, to argue that, what is an animal? It is just a basic
> > > standardized classification we give to certain types of
> lifeforms.
> > We
> > > truly have no idea what we are, where we are, why we are, or
how
> we
> > > got here? So, stating that we are animals is a fact is rather
> > > simplistic and even human arrogance to believe that we actually
> > know
> > > much about ourselves or our surroundings, all based upon the
> actual
> > > facts! So, what are we? What is an animal, if it's only a tag
we
> > > invented to classify ourselves? I could go on and on. Anyhow,
> they
> > > didn't even have biology in my high school.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris
> > > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > > It is still a fact that humans are animals though...that fact
> > > really
> > > > has nothing to do with evolution, which is a theory. Our
being
> > > > animals is, however, a fact. Anyone who took basic 6th grade
> > > biology
> > > > knows that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected],
caesarmystika999
> > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Actually, the truth is, evolution is only a theory, which
> > cannot
> > > as
> > > > > of yet be proven completely. It is the firm belief of this
> > Church
> > > > and
> > > > > Myself that many of the races on this planet did not come
> from
> > > > > monkeys at all, but come from extraterrestrial races of
> humans
> > or
> > > > > other beings much more superior and complex than us, or
that
> we
> > > > were
> > > > > genetically created by them. There is much more evidence
> > > suggesting
> > > > > this theory than an evolutionary one. Therefore, the stand
of
> > > this
> > > > > Church is one that says evolution is only a partial truth,
if
> > > even
> > > > > that. The science needed to explore these theories further
> does
> > > not
> > > > > yet exist. The DNA technologies are still in their
infancies
> > and
> > > > are
> > > > > very flawed, and being manipulated by certain groups, some
> > > > religious,
> > > > > others more scientific.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our Church is a firm supporter of science, especially new
age
> > > > > sciences, which will be used to raise humanity to a state
of
> > > super-
> > > > > human immortality. This may be a state of existence we once
> > > > attained
> > > > > or were part of. In these coming years, science will begin
to
> > > merge
> > > > > with many religious theories, for example a form of
> creationism
> > > > > combining with evolution, or what is considered natural as
> > > opposed
> > > > to
> > > > > supernatural will begin to integrate into a kind of union,
> like
> > > the
> > > > > way we understand light as both particles and waves.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even the eve, out of africa theory has been blown out of
the
> > > water.
> > > > > It is ridiculous to believe that we all came out of africa.
> > They
> > > > > based their tests on a belief that only women carry the
alien
> > > > > mitochondria in our cells to survive, but it has now been
> > > > discovered
> > > > > that men pass it on, which completely flaws their theory.
In
> > this
> > > > new
> > > > > age most sciences and laws will be completely rewritten,
even
> > > > > medicine will undergo a total transformation, possibly
> reviving
> > > old
> > > > > theories that were discarded, but actually turn out to be
> > > correct.
> > > > > The laws and beliefs of medicine, physics, and mathematics,
> > etc.,
> > > > are
> > > > > constantly changing, especially with the new age
discoveries
> of
> > > > > quantum physics, advanced biochemistry, etc. Many of the
> > ancient
> > > > > sciences may have been remnants of higher civilizations.
One
> > > > example
> > > > > is alchemy, which is one of the most advanced ancient
> sciences
> > > that
> > > > > combine spirituality, medicine, and chemistry, etc. This is
> the
> > > > pure
> > > > > foundation for our advanced biochemistry, and other
sciences.
> > > > > Religious beliefs are certainly flawed, but may hold some
> keys
> > to
> > > > > unlocking the universe as well. Science is the future, but
> > > science
> > > > a
> > > > > religion as well!
> > > > >
> > > > > Once many of the sciences are freed from greed, corruption,
> and
> > > > > economic suffocation/manipulation, we can begin to purify
> these
> > > > > sciences and many flaws, lies, and suppressions will be
> lifted.
> > > > Then
> > > > > a new age will truly dawn! The greatest advance will come
> when
> > > the
> > > > > majority of the health care systems are no longer tied to
> > > economics
> > > > > and no longer driven by the dollar, and personal wealth.
This
> > > will
> > > > > create a Super-Spiritual Health Care System, a true
> Priesthood
> > > and
> > > > > Priestesshood. A True Healer does not go to school to
become
> a
> > > > doctor
> > > > > for the money! Those that do can never be trusted! Advanced
> > > Health
> > > > > Care will be free to the majority, and more specialized
> > treatment
> > > > and
> > > > > care, will cost only those who are willing and can pay or
> > trade.
> > > > This
> > > > > does not mean younger classes cannot get specialized
> treatment,
> > > it
> > > > > simply means some people will want their own private
doctors.
> > > Many
> > > > > changes are coming!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris
> > > > > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > --- In [email protected],
> > > > DstruktyvSoul666@a...
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm new to the group so I figured I might as well say
> hello
> > > to
> > > > > > everyone and
> > > > > > > introduce myself a little. My name is Catrina but
> everyone
> > > > calls
> > > > > me
> > > > > > Trina.
> > > > > > > I'm a 23 year old female mother of two. I was born
sang,
> > > > pranic,
> > > > > > and empathic
> > > > > > > among other things and I've always been on the "darker"
> > side
> > > of
> > > > > > things to put
> > > > > > > it lightly. I've never gotten into the "god/jesus"
> > religions
> > > > even
> > > > > > though
> > > > > > > people in my family tried to force their belief system
on
> > me
> > > at
> > > > a
> > > > > > very young
> > > > > > > age. It didn't get them very far and my aunt's church
> told
> > > her
> > > > to
> > > > > > never bring
> > > > > > > me back when I was 7 because I was asking questions
about
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > shit that
> > > > > > > made no sense within their religion and they had no
> answers
> > > so
> > > > I
> > > > > > guess it
> > > > > > > pissed them off. My family finally gave up after that
so
> I
> > > > guess
> > > > > it
> > > > > > was a win
> > > > > > > win situation. Well, that's my intro.
> > > > > > > Later,
> > > > > > > Trina
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi! I am also new. I am 26 and am with the love of my
> life.
> > > We
> > > > > have
> > > > > > no kids yet...but we do have 4 cats. I was raised
Lutheran
> > by
> > > my
> > > > > > mother. My father, who has been absent from my life
since
> I
> > > was
> > > > > 14,
> > > > > > never told me that his grandparents were Jewish...a
recent
> > > > > > discovery. I am Wiccan/Unitarian, but I go by scientific
> > facts
> > > > > > first...humans are members of the animal kingdom, and
> > evolution
> > > > is
> > > > > > real. I hate it when people are so blinded by religion
> that
> > > they
> > > > > > choose to ignore those facts.
DAMN THE CROSS!!!
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