Re: New Here

There are no facts, only theories, and changing standards! I am 
highly educated and I deny it. Without life to perceive the universe, 
the universe does not exist. I can't allow you to continue to post 
things as fact here, when they are only partial truths, and 
illusions. I understand your point, but do not believe it. To show 
you that I am well aware of our primeval natures, which is commonly 
called animal nature, I will demonstrate one of the laws of animal 
dominion, dominate or be dominated. I dominate all thought and 
beliefs here in my world. Here I am God Almighty! These laws are 
built into our nature, which makes them partially static in our 
perception. They only exist through our interaction with eachother 
and our environment. Take away one or the other and the laws cease to 
exist. Take away all life and the universe will cease to exist. I 
take you out of my universe and you cease to exist, along with your 
beliefs, thoughts, and actions, which you are forced to spit out 
because of your own primeval nature, through the laws of animal 
dominion. You are a ghost now and your voice is forever silent. Are 
you truly alive? Did you ever truly exist? Will you ever truly know 
death? I am your consciousness. I am you, and you are me, and we will 
never know unconsciousness for long.




--- In [email protected], "Staci Harris 
<vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> What I meant was that we are members of the animal kingdom...that 
is 
> a fact that no educated person can deny.  Like I said, the five 
> biological kingdoms is a fact that cannot be denied...although some 
> Xians would like it to be.  Those 5 kingdoms were not invented by 
> humans, they were simply discovered by us...the kingdoms existed 
long 
> before anyone understood them...same as gravity existed before 
anyone 
> had a name for it.
> 
> Lucky me...I have always had science teachers that taught what was 
> fact (The five biological kingdoms, us being members of the animal 
> kingdom, etc) and what was theory (evolution), and the difference 
> between the two.  Without knowing the facts all of us are just 
blind.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], caesarmystika999 
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > In my opinion science as we know it, is just uncovering bits of 
the 
> > gears of creation in its natural/supernatural state. It proves 
> > nothing positively, just gives us foundation and basic 
> understanding 
> > as we survey our surroundings and process these findings through 
> our 
> > bio-computers, as a means of survival. Nothing in this universe 
or 
> > creation is static, only near static. As for being animals before 
> > anyone knew what that was, that tends to say we have always been 
> > primitive or primeval creatures, which have only recently 
evolved. 
> I 
> > highly disagree with that. There are things in this universe that 
> we 
> > can't even begin to understand or standardize yet or ever. There 
> are 
> > things that I am aware of that you or others may never 
comprehend, 
> > and vice versa, no matter how etymologically or semantically 
> > sophisticated we become, etc. 
> > 
> > The evidence for the beginning of human technological and 
> > cultural/social life outside of this world is overwhelming. To 
> > declare that one understands and knows exactly what we are, is 
the 
> > same declaration that god exists because we exist. An animal is 
> just 
> > a classification we stamped upon ourselves and other creatures, 
to 
> > help us define ourselves, and universe. Just because we look like 
> > other creatures and fit into the environment, and our physical 
make 
> > up acts like theirs is no substantial proof of anything, just 
gives 
> > some foundation for a theory. 
> > 
> > Even so, all creatures can be one creature as I believe, all 
> > connected by universal mind. All knowledge in this theory is 
built 
> > into us, through ideal forms, standards, numbers, etc. To say 
that 
> > there are five biological kingdoms is a sure thing, is to say 
that 
> > life is only limited to 5 kingdoms for sure. It should be thought 
> of 
> > as 5 known kingdoms. Also, the more important thing is that this 
is 
> such a 
> > little corner or level of our understanding of creation. It is 
> merely 
> > a standardized classification set up, to identify things on this 
> > level of thought and understanding, so that we may move on to 
other 
> > levels and break through our own barriers of consciousness.
> > 
> > All knowledge will be contained locked inside the micro-universe 
of 
> > atomic structures, which is reflected in the macrocosm. Our sub-
> > conscious brains can access this storehouse of knowledge at once 
> and 
> > instantaneously, yet never upload this information directly or 
> > completely. Our consciousness can be fired up into the super-
> > conscious state, but the overwhelming amount of knowledge will 
> either 
> > fry your brain or shutdown other aspects of your mental 
abilities. 
> It 
> > is conceivable that somewhere in the universe that there is a bio-
> > computer that can consciously handle such vast amounts of 
> knowledge, 
> > and in the coming age humans will genetically engineer far 
greater 
> > human conscious abilities. This is part of our next stage of 
> > development, along with artificial intelligence.
> > 
> > Humans and other higher beings, many on earth, cannot be 
classified 
> > among other creatures or lifeforms any longer, because we are on 
> the 
> > path to becoming super-beings mentally/spiritually and 
> > physically/materially. Our imaginary modern yet primitive 
> > classification of being animals cannot be tagged upon us any 
longer 
> > as we rise to higher more idealistically spiritual and hopefully 
> > realistically carnal civilization, that doesn't force dogma upon 
> > everyone through civil laws that oppress us, as judeo-christians 
do 
> > today. Being a believer in balance, I am a Mystic that supports 
all 
> > Advancing Science and Technological Leaps, which are pure, 
> unbiased, 
> > and uncorrupt because of capitalistic, career making, or 
> > political/religious interests. This will be difficult because of 
> our 
> > primeval natures, our programming, yet we can work with them, not 
> > against them. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris 
> > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > Actually, science has proven what we are...which is a good 
> thing.  
> > MY 
> > > college bio professor said the only sure thing in science is 
the 
> > five 
> > > biological kingdoms.  He says it (the five biological kingdoms) 
> was 
> > a 
> > > human discovery but we didn't invent it...we were animals 
before 
> > > anyone knew what that was, just like gravity existed before 
> anyone 
> > > knew about it.  
> > > 
> > > How could your school not have biology?  Isn't that slightly 
> > illegal?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], caesarmystika999 
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > What else would we be? What is the alternative you're 
referring 
> > to? 
> > > > Also, to argue that, what is an animal? It is just a basic 
> > > > standardized classification we give to certain types of 
> > lifeforms. 
> > > We 
> > > > truly have no idea what we are, where we are, why we are, or 
> how 
> > we 
> > > > got here? So, stating that we are animals is a fact is rather 
> > > > simplistic and even human arrogance to believe that we 
actually 
> > > know 
> > > > much about ourselves or our surroundings, all based upon the 
> > actual 
> > > > facts! So, what are we? What is an animal, if it's only a tag 
> we 
> > > > invented to classify ourselves? I could go on and on. Anyhow, 
> > they 
> > > > didn't even have biology in my high school.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Staci Harris 
> > > > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > > > It is still a fact that humans are animals though...that 
fact 
> > > > really 
> > > > > has nothing to do with evolution, which is a theory.  Our 
> being 
> > > > > animals is, however, a fact.  Anyone who took basic 6th 
grade 
> > > > biology 
> > > > > knows that.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], 
> caesarmystika999 
> > > > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Actually, the truth is, evolution is only a theory, which 
> > > cannot 
> > > > as 
> > > > > > of yet be proven completely. It is the firm belief of 
this 
> > > Church 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > Myself that many of the races on this planet did not come 
> > from 
> > > > > > monkeys at all, but come from extraterrestrial races of 
> > humans 
> > > or 
> > > > > > other beings much more superior and complex than us, or 
> that 
> > we 
> > > > > were 
> > > > > > genetically created by them. There is much more evidence 
> > > > suggesting 
> > > > > > this theory than an evolutionary one. Therefore, the 
stand 
> of 
> > > > this 
> > > > > > Church is one that says evolution is only a partial 
truth, 
> if 
> > > > even 
> > > > > > that. The science needed to explore these theories 
further 
> > does 
> > > > not 
> > > > > > yet exist. The DNA technologies are still in their 
> infancies 
> > > and 
> > > > > are 
> > > > > > very flawed, and being manipulated by certain groups, 
some 
> > > > > religious, 
> > > > > > others more scientific.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Our Church is a firm supporter of science, especially new 
> age 
> > > > > > sciences, which will be used to raise humanity to a state 
> of 
> > > > super-
> > > > > > human immortality. This may be a state of existence we 
once 
> > > > > attained 
> > > > > > or were part of. In these coming years, science will 
begin 
> to 
> > > > merge 
> > > > > > with many religious theories, for example a form of 
> > creationism 
> > > > > > combining with evolution, or what is considered natural 
as 
> > > > opposed 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > supernatural will begin to integrate into a kind of 
union, 
> > like 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > way we understand light as both particles and waves.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Even the eve, out of africa theory has been blown out of 
> the 
> > > > water. 
> > > > > > It is ridiculous to believe that we all came out of 
africa. 
> > > They 
> > > > > > based their tests on a belief that only women carry the 
> alien 
> > > > > > mitochondria in our cells to survive, but it has now been 
> > > > > discovered 
> > > > > > that men pass it on, which completely flaws their theory. 
> In 
> > > this 
> > > > > new 
> > > > > > age most sciences and laws will be completely rewritten, 
> even 
> > > > > > medicine will undergo a total transformation, possibly 
> > reviving 
> > > > old 
> > > > > > theories that were discarded, but actually turn out to be 
> > > > correct. 
> > > > > > The laws and beliefs of medicine, physics, and 
mathematics, 
> > > etc., 
> > > > > are 
> > > > > > constantly changing, especially with the new age 
> discoveries 
> > of 
> > > > > > quantum physics, advanced biochemistry, etc. Many of the 
> > > ancient 
> > > > > > sciences may have been remnants of higher civilizations. 
> One 
> > > > > example 
> > > > > > is alchemy, which is one of the most advanced ancient 
> > sciences 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > combine spirituality, medicine, and chemistry, etc. This 
is 
> > the 
> > > > > pure 
> > > > > > foundation for our advanced biochemistry, and other 
> sciences. 
> > > > > > Religious beliefs are certainly flawed, but may hold some 
> > keys 
> > > to 
> > > > > > unlocking the universe as well. Science is the future, 
but 
> > > > science 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > religion as well!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Once many of the sciences are freed from greed, 
corruption, 
> > and 
> > > > > > economic suffocation/manipulation, we can begin to purify 
> > these 
> > > > > > sciences and many flaws, lies, and suppressions will be 
> > lifted. 
> > > > > Then 
> > > > > > a new age will truly dawn! The greatest advance will come 
> > when 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > majority of the health care systems are no longer tied to 
> > > > economics 
> > > > > > and no longer driven by the dollar, and personal wealth. 
> This 
> > > > will 
> > > > > > create a Super-Spiritual Health Care System, a true 
> > Priesthood 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > Priestesshood. A True Healer does not go to school to 
> become 
> > a 
> > > > > doctor 
> > > > > > for the money! Those that do can never be trusted! 
Advanced 
> > > > Health 
> > > > > > Care will be free to the majority, and more specialized 
> > > treatment 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > care, will cost only those who are willing and can pay or 
> > > trade. 
> > > > > This 
> > > > > > does not mean younger classes cannot get specialized 
> > treatment, 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > simply means some people will want their own private 
> doctors. 
> > > > Many 
> > > > > > changes are coming!    
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Staci 
Harris 
> > > > > > <vinceneilsgirl@y...>" <vinceneilsgirl@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], 
> > > > > DstruktyvSoul666@a... 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm new to the group so I figured I might as well say 
> > hello 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > > everyone and 
> > > > > > > > introduce myself a little. My name is Catrina but 
> > everyone 
> > > > > calls 
> > > > > > me 
> > > > > > > Trina. 
> > > > > > > > I'm a 23 year old female mother of two. I was born 
> sang, 
> > > > > pranic, 
> > > > > > > and empathic 
> > > > > > > > among other things and I've always been on 
the "darker" 
> > > side 
> > > > of 
> > > > > > > things to put 
> > > > > > > > it lightly. I've never gotten into the "god/jesus" 
> > > religions 
> > > > > even 
> > > > > > > though 
> > > > > > > > people in my family tried to force their belief 
system 
> on 
> > > me 
> > > > at 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > > very young 
> > > > > > > > age. It didn't get them very far and my aunt's church 
> > told 
> > > > her 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > > never bring 
> > > > > > > > me back when I was 7 because I was asking questions 
> about 
> > > all 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > shit that 
> > > > > > > > made no sense within their religion and they had no 
> > answers 
> > > > so 
> > > > > I 
> > > > > > > guess it 
> > > > > > > > pissed them off. My family finally gave up after that 
> so 
> > I 
> > > > > guess 
> > > > > > it 
> > > > > > > was a win 
> > > > > > > > win situation. Well, that's my intro.
> > > > > > > > Later,
> > > > > > > > Trina
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi!  I am also new. I am 26 and am with the love of my 
> > life.  
> > > > We 
> > > > > > have 
> > > > > > > no kids yet...but we do have 4 cats.  I was raised 
> Lutheran 
> > > by 
> > > > my 
> > > > > > > mother.  My father, who has been absent from my life 
> since 
> > I 
> > > > was 
> > > > > > 14, 
> > > > > > > never told me that his grandparents were Jewish...a 
> recent 
> > > > > > > discovery.  I am Wiccan/Unitarian, but I go by 
scientific 
> > > facts 
> > > > > > > first...humans are members of the animal kingdom, and 
> > > evolution 
> > > > > is 
> > > > > > > real.  I hate it when people are so blinded by religion 
> > that 
> > > > they 
> > > > > > > choose to ignore those facts.



DAMN THE CROSS!!! 

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