Re: on yuksel and the "19" folk - Bible/Hadith use.
"Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]>
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salam, for me, the bible are historical companion to the qur'an prior to muhammad's coming ... while the hadiths are historical companion to the qur'an during/post muhammad. the 23 year span of the hadiths are very important to the qur'an. without the hadiths, we would have no clue about stuff qur'an mentions in passing... that took place during those 23 years. afdhere Afdhere Jama Editorial Director HURIYAH Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O [email protected] http://www.huriyahmag.org >From: Elisha >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] on yuksel and the "19" folk - Bible/Hadith use. >Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:09:14 -0800 (PST) > >salaam Afdhere, > >Afdhere wrote: > >"just couple centuries after muhammad's death. so, >just because one not-so-authentic source is older than >other not-so-authentic sources... it makes it more >reliable? :) come on now." > >Older is not the point...being a primary document is. >The hadiths span 23 years at most, the books of bible >spans millenia - making it a useful resource to >identify things that the Quran speaks of. Not the >bible itself, but its various 66 books are each to >varying degrees historical artifacts in ways the >had iths cannot function as. Hadiths are contemporary >to the Quran, the books of the bible are not. In this >context the bible has utility in areas the hadiths may >not - thats all. In fact, even if tampered with the >books of the bible are literally refered to in the >Quran (i.e. the Psalms), this is not so for hadiths >(not hints, I'm talking literally now). I don't know >about these peoples' intentions. I'm just saying that >it is theoretically possible to use the books of the >bible in Quranic commentary and not the hadiths >without having ill-intent. > >Also, the people (or person - lol) at Quran.org also >say that the hadiths are Satanic. You're right, I too >am skeptical of people who only view things in >dichotomies. > > > > ---------- Working moms: Find helpful tip s here on managing kids, home, work and yourself.