Re: on original sin
"Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]> Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:04:35 -0800
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salam, that is exactly it. judaism, christianity and islam all share the basics of that story; a) god created man, b) god told man to stay away from blah tree and c) humans didn't and god casted them out to the earth. the main differences between the three is the way st. augustine formulated almost 500 years after christ's death/leaving. afdhere Afdhere Jama Editorial Director HURIYAH Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O [email protected] http://www.huriyahmag.com >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] on original sin >Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:57:26 EST > >hmmm... i really don't like to get involved in any kind of discussion >centering on the details and differences between religions... but.. i have to >say here that you all seem to be missing the meaning behind the concept of >"original sin". original sin is a catholic concept, and the absolution for >it is baptism, which is the closest thing i can think of to the shahada - it >is a joining of the faith. (in catholicism, confirmation is the commitment, >as you pass puberty, to serve god in your adult life. maybe this is like >shahada part two.) > >the "original sin" was not disobeying god, it was disobeying god in order to >obtain that knowledge which was said to be unavailable to humans. as far as >i know, muslims share this belief, that there is knowledge god has which is >beyond humans, and god does not permit access to it. > >the punishment for that original sin was not that humans were evil, and >original sin, does not equate in any way with evil - it equates with "not in >a state of grace". now, again, as far as i know, muslims also recognize >being in and out of states of grace - the purpose of wudu is to put one in a >state of purity/grace in order to present oneself directly before god. > >we are all living the punishment for the original sin, by our existence here >on this earth. the punishment, if you'll recall, was banishment from >paradise to earth. now you can look at this any way you want, but the >religions are mostly consistent. i 'm not even sure what the point of >dwelling in the realm of difference is -- to me it's beside the point of a >relationship with god. > > >_______________________________________________ >ProgressiveMuslims mailing list >[email protected] >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims ---------- Click here for a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee.