Re: y2, on nature and morality
"Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]> Sun, 08 Feb 2004 09:50:14 -0800
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salam, i definitely agree it is immoral to go around having sex with people you are not in relationships with... because i believe sex is such an intimate gift. but what about pre-marital sex in a loving relationship? a couple who love each other... who have been together for years... but are not married. take oprah winfrey and stedman graham, for example, who have been in a monogomous relationship for almost twenty years. me thinks there is nothing immoral about that. and, yes, thank god there is more to life than sex or making babies :) afdhere Afdhere Jama Editorial Director HURIYAH Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O [email protected] http://www.huriyahmag.com >From: "na'eem jeenah" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] y2, on nature and morality >Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:43:22 +0200 > >Theres a whole lot immoral about going around having sex with people >one is not married to. And it's haraam and unacceptable in Islam, >paternity tests or not. Life, by the way, is not all about sex and babies, >thank god. > >na'eem > >On 8 Feb 2004 at 8:12, Afdhere Jama wrote: > > > salam, y2, > > first of all, is there a name we can call you? :) > > in your conclusion to arrive that "what's natural is not always > > moral," you said that "sexual urges" do not makerape or adultery > > moral. neither rape nor adultery are result to "sexual urges" or > > "hyper sexual drives", they are sickness (rape) and deficiency in the > > relationship (adultery.) there isn't anything natural that is immoral. > > even heterosexual sex before marriage which the qur'an restricts is > > immoral... it is just restricted, and in my opinion ... no longer > > restricted (thank god to man's knowledge to invent/discover paternity > > tests.) by the way, those "male servants" (actually the verse you > > cited just talks about 'male youths') ... they're are on earth too. > > and women are not expected to 'cover' in front of them (see 24:31) ... > > and men, well :) afdhere > > >_______________________________________________ >ProgressiveMuslims mailing list >[email protected] >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims ---------- Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time.