Re: y2, on nature and morality

"na'eem jeenah" <[email protected]> Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:43:22 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
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Theres a whole lot immoral about going around having sex with people 
one is not married to. And it's haraam and unacceptable in Islam, 
paternity tests or not. Life, by the way, is not all about sex and babies, 
thank god.

na'eem

On 8 Feb 2004 at 8:12, Afdhere Jama wrote:

> salam, y2, 
> first of all, is there a name we can call you? :)
> in your conclusion to arrive that "what's natural is not always
> moral," you said that "sexual urges" do not makerape or adultery
> moral. neither rape nor adultery are result to "sexual urges" or
> "hyper sexual drives", they are sickness (rape) and deficiency in the
> relationship (adultery.) there isn't anything natural that is immoral.
> even heterosexual sex before marriage which the qur'an restricts is
> immoral... it is just restricted, and in my opinion ... no longer
> restricted (thank god to man's knowledge to invent/discover paternity
> tests.) by the way, those "male servants" (actually the verse you
> cited just talks about 'male youths') ... they're are on earth too.
> and women are not expected to 'cover' in front of them (see 24:31) ...
> and men, well :) afdhere