Re: on original sin

salam,

my condolences about your grandfather. it is traditional amongst the muslims to say "from god we came, and to him we shall return" (ina lillahi wa ina ileihi raj'un)... to remind us that we are all going "home" some time or another. and while all humanity knows that, it is still worldly painful to lose a loved one. so my thoughts are with you and your family.

i attended many, many catholic services. i truly believe it is a romantic faith. the most beautiful of which... lining up to recieve "the body of christ" -- the anticipation those people feel... you can see it in their eyes... faces, etc.

thank you for all the clarifications.

afdhere

Afdhere Jama
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HURIYAH Publications
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>From: "Laura" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] on original sin >Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:29:55 -0500 > >Walaikum Asalaam Afdhere, > >Thank you for your apology. And I hope you really will believe me and a few others on this list who were Catholic over others who are outsiders or against the faith. > >As far as some sites being government supported...I don't really know how anyone can believe what the government supports in this day age and believe it word-for-word. If so, there are some weapons of mass destruction I want to sell ya. > >I apologize in that I became so angry over the issue. Perhaps it is because recently my grandfather died and I attended his funeral mass. Perhaps it was the day before
I read your messages on Catholics. Catholicism was very important to my family and my parents, while not also not believing everything the Catholic church dictates, were very upset about my converting to Islam and still do not support my decision. > >At the mass prayers are offered to Jesus and God. Communion is taken to remember the last supper by and for Catholics to recieve some of the holy spirit in the form of Jesus body and blood. The entire mass is to commemorate the sacrifice of Jesus for man's sins. While some believe it is idolatry, statues of Jesus and Mary adorn the church as earthly representations of them. And when you said that "a man" forgives men for their sins, you have a mistaken understanding of confession. God forgives the sins while the priest is the representative who helps you take part in the ritual of confession. > >Mary is a saint who can interced
e for people. The belief is that God will listen to a saint's supplications, a saint who has no sin, rather than a sinner. If the saint requests then God may have mercy on the person. Contrary to popular belief, Mary is not "worshipped" as a god. She is revered as a saint. Some people may believe the line is so thin as to be the same thing, but to Catholics it is not. There are actually some similarities of the Catholic Church to Shia Islam. > >I personally have been to many churches. Baptist, Anglican, Catholic, Non-denominational, Evangelical, Pentacostal, Mormon. While all have subtle and somtimes major differences in theology they all believe in the trinity. They beleive Jesus as Man, Son, and God. Maybe it would benefit you to attend a Catholic church, if you haven't already, and meet some Catholics. Anyway, I believe that some people may be quite annoyed by this thread so i
f we continue the conversation and you have questions about points of belief, I 'll be glad to answer them off list.

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