Re: y2, on nature and morality

Salaam,
I agree Na'eem.  I just cant understand the viewpoint that sex outside 
marriage is Islamic.  I think of myself as progressive - but the Quran is 
still my guide.  Sometimes I think that so called progressives are twisting 
and distorting the Quran as much as our Wahabbi/Salafi friends.  I dont know 
how you can interpret that paternity is the only limiting factor in our 
sexual relationships.  Sounds like an excuse to enjoy yourself if you ask 
me!!!

Aisha


>From: "na'eem jeenah" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] y2, on nature and morality
>Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:43:22 +0200
>
>Theres a whole lot immoral about going around having sex with people
>one is not married to. And it's haraam and unacceptable in Islam,
>paternity tests or not. Life, by the way, is not all about sex and babies,
>thank god.
>
>na'eem
>
>On 8 Feb 2004 at 8:12, Afdhere Jama wrote:
>
> > salam, y2,
> > first of all, is there a name we can call you? :)
> > in your conclusion to arrive that "what's natural is not always
> > moral," you said that "sexual urges" do not makerape or adultery
> > moral. neither rape nor adultery are result to "sexual urges" or
> > "hyper sexual drives", they are sickness (rape) and deficiency in the
> > relationship (adultery.) there isn't anything natural that is immoral.
> > even heterosexual sex before marriage which the qur'an restricts is
> > immoral... it is just restricted, and in my opinion ... no longer
> > restricted (thank god to man's knowledge to invent/discover paternity
> > tests.) by the way, those "male servants" (actually the verse you
> > cited just talks about 'male youths') ... they're are on earth too.
> > and women are not expected to 'cover' in front of them (see 24:31) ...
> > and men, well :) afdhere
>
>
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