RE: ProgressiveMuslims digest, Vol 1 #384 - 8 msgs

"y2" <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:31:34 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
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Hey Na'eem,

I definitely believe in the enternal correctness of the Koran.  I don't
think sections can be ignored or that certain things become outdated.  I
don't think we as humans are so arogant and great that we think we can ever
above the word of God.  I also believe in a very literal interpretation of
it.  If we can't even agree on the correctness of the koran, there's very
little left to debate.  On that same note, the mention of male servants not
having need of women in the koran implies for lack of a better term a lack
of manliness.  Most certainly god makes constant references to creating
mankind in two.  one male and one female [75.39].  It's possible something
got lost in translation here being the genetic male/female and the concept
of male servants are totally separate forms of sexes.

Its entirely possible, these male servants are simply...well regular old
servants who would not lust after their masters.  But they could also be
interpreted as homosexuals.  They are given their role in Islam just as us
heterosexuals are granted the roles for marriage and what not.

Just tossing it out there.

Yameen
> salaam yameen
>
> well.. hmm... ok. but don't you think that there might have been at
> least an itsy-bitsy little tiny reference to something to do with the
> issue in the Qur'an if it were as serious as a third sex? why would
> allah seemingly only talk about 2 then?
>
> of course, if we regard the Qur'an as "full of outdated
> thingies" (not
> suggesting that you said that, then I guess we shouldn't give a damn
> about what it says.
>
> na'eem
>
> On 9 Feb 2004 at 0:33, y2 wrote:
>
> >
> > No doubt that is the case.  Life is not all about sex and
> babies.  But
> > it's possible to think of homosexuals as a third sex, then they may
> > not to be bound by the general rules for 'heterosexual' people
> > concerning marriage and what not.  Hence they are relieved of the
> > moral constraints imposed on heterosexual people.  On that
> same token,
> > they may also be prohibitted from having a child, but anywhose.
> >
> > Yameen
>