RE: RE: ProgressiveMuslims digest, Vol 1 #396 - 4 msgs

salam, yameen,

it is really strange when people read into others comments into something they are not. i was talking about non-muslim african-american (christian, mainly) ... and immigrant muslims (which includes AFRICAN-americans like myself... who are actually from africa yet american... yet muslim... yet immigrant.)

and someone said that most african-americans who vote don't benefit from welfare, as if only the rich african-americans (small group, btw) are the only african-americans who vote. and who was talking about benefit? and the benefit is not based on individually... but collectively. in 1997, the national black election study at ohio state found that 43% of african-american voters were against downplaying welfare. and 64% wanted the welfare to be allowed for at least five years for families. before 1989, 68% of african-american voters were against all forms of welfare reform.

that aside, 35% of blacks are on welfare (and while that is a far cry from the 65% of whites being on welfare... those of us who are aware of our numbers know 35% of blacks is just way too many for us.)

afdhere

Afdhere Jama
Editorial Director
HURIYAH Publications
S A N F R A N C I S C O
[email protected]
http://www.huriyahmag.com

>From: "y2" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: >Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] RE: ProgressiveMuslims digest, Vol 1 #396 - 4 msgs >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:06:43 -0500 > >Salams, > >I'm not one to complain about 'politically correctness', but is anyone else >not irritated by this statement. This is the kind of ignorance (most likely >subconsciously) that really annoys some people like myself. At least >racism/stereotypes used to be out in the open before. Irshand Manji is >another one that does this underthe table racism. Its along the same vein >as >"What's your ancestry?" >"Indian" >"But you're Muslim?" >"Yes" >"But I thought India was Hindu" >(actual conversation I actually had) > >African-American is
simply a group of people who happen to be Americans, but >whose ancestors have roots in Africa. A Muslim is someone who believes in >Islam. The two are not mutually exclusive, nor should that thought even >enter your mind as it apparently did for you. Perhaps you mean Arabs, or >Pakistani, or Indians in place of Muslims (Which I think you did). > >In either case, we're not Jewish where the line between ethnicity and >religion is blurred. For the rest of us, the terms to use are pretty clear. >In either case, I would hope such racism does not end up in the actual >magazine. > >Sorry if I sound offensive. It's one of those thigns that gets me. > >Yameen > > salam, > > > > i think it has to do with experience. even though > > african-american community is 'led' by the "elite" as > > the muslims, i think the first has mo
re experience > > with the u.s. politics. and unlike the muslims who > > still have an "immigrant" mindset, the > > african-americans are more prone to domestic issues > > such as welfare and jobs. > > > > afdhere > > > > > > > > Afdhere Jama > > Editorial Director > > HURIYAH Publications > > S A N F R A N C I S C O > > [email protected] > > http://www.huriyahmag.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >ProgressiveMuslims mailing list >[email protected] >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims

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