RE: RE: ProgressiveMuslims digest, Vol 1 #396 - 4 msgs

I am sorry coud you please clarify what you mean by " Under the table racism" and also what do you mean when you say that.. unlike jews, we dont have a blurring between ethnicity and religion.

Why is it offensive that people require clarification when making religious and ethnic distinctions. Isnt it all part of the education process for people to ask, in order to remedy thier ignorance. I think you should welcome such inquires and use them as an opportunity to make clarifications. After all, it is not unreasonable for people to make blanket assumptions or use stereotypes to facilitate thier understanding of an increasingly complex world. But how can they or we for that matter become educated, if we are so darn concious about not offending people like you.

And furthermore, did you not just do the same thing that you are complaining about, by assuming that all jews are blurred with respect to ethnic and religious distinctions

>From: "y2"

>Reply-To: [email protected]

>To:

>Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] RE: ProgressiveMuslims digest, Vol 1 #396 - 4 msgs

>Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:06:43 -0500

>

>Salams,

>

>I'm not one to complain about 'politically correctness', but is anyone else

>not irritated by this statement. This is the kind of ignorance (most likely

>subconsciously) that really annoys some people like myself. At least

>racism/stereotypes used to be out in the open before. Irshand Manji is

>another one that does this underthe table racism. Its along the same vein

>as

>"What's your ancestry?"

>"Indian"

>"But you're Muslim?"

>"Yes"

>"But I thought India was Hindu"

>(actual conversation I actually had)

>

>African-American is simply a group of people who happen to be Americans, but

>whose ancestors have roots in Africa. A Muslim is someone who believes in

>Islam. The two are not mutually exclusive, nor should that thought even

>enter your mind as it apparently did for you. Perhaps you mean Arabs, or

>Pakistani, or Indians in place of Muslims (Which I think you did).

>

>In either case, we're not Jewish where the line between ethnicity and

>religion is blurred. For the rest of us, the terms to use are pretty clear.

>In either case, I would hope such racism does not end up in the actual

>magazine.

>

>Sorry if I sound offensive. It's one of those thigns that gets me.

>

>Yameen

> > salam,

> >

> > i think it has to do with experience. even though

> > african-american community is 'led' by the "elite" as

> > the muslims, i think the first has more experience

> > with the u.s. politics. and unlike the muslims who

> > still have an "immigrant" mindset, the

> > african-americans are more prone to domestic issues

> > such as welfare and jobs.

> >

> > afdhere

> >

> >

> >

> > Afdhere Jama

> > Editorial Director

> > HURIYAH Publications

> > S A N F R A N C I S C O

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> > http://www.huriyahmag.com

> >

>

>

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