RE: ProgressiveMuslims digest, Vol 1 #408 - 10 msgs

"y2" <[email protected]> Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:20:08 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
Message-ID <000501c4018f$379550a0$0d02a8c0@rage>
Salaams Feisal,

Well, we just went through a big thread on this a few weeks ago.  Obviously,
there are going to be other views, but here we go anyways.  Here's my view.
Bare in mind I do beleive in the literal interpretation of the koran, and I
don't believe parts of it can be dismissed.

I don't think there is any room for homosexual marriage per say in Islam.  I
think the most 'accepting' Islam can be of Homosexuals is to think of them
as a third sex.   Kinda like how North American Native Indians have
'two-spirited' people or any number of cultures around the world think.  The
koran, when speaking of marriage definitely speaks in terms of a man and a
woman, so I believe the role of family is still reserved solely for a man
and a woman.

However, there are mentions in the Koran and in the hadiths of shall we call
them 'non-masculine' men (Koran 24.31).  I think they then have a role for
such people, that does not include the role of a 'family' or that of the
masculine man.  They are allowed certain priveleges, such as to see women
unveiled...but they also do not have certain priveleges, such as the right
to a family.  Now whether or not these non-masculine men applies to
'castrated males' or homosexuals or both I don't know.  But I think it is
reasonable to think it applies to homosexuals.

So basically, no I don't think homosexuals can marry and have a family
within Islam.  Of course, if you don't take the Koran literally or feel you
can just dismiss certain aspects,well then that's your perogative and a case
for anything and everything can be made.  I think if there is a role for
homosexuals in Islam, that is it.  There is a third possibility in that
these less masculine men should not be allowed to be homosexuals, but should
simply not be sexual.

Yameen

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> Message: 1
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:17:16 +0800 (SGT)
> From: Feisal Abdul Rahman <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] Can there be same-sex
> union in Islam?
> Reply-To: [email protected]
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> Assalamu'alaikum to everyone,
>
> With all the heated debate in the US and elsewhere regarding
> same-sex marriage, I'm curious to find out from members of
> this list as to whether there is, or if there can be, any
> room for sanctification of same-sex unions in (progressive)
> Islam, similar to that of the Protestant Church in the
> Netherlands or of Reform/Reconstructionist Judaism.  Thank you.
>
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