Re: slavery, polygamy

itrath <[email protected]> Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:37:06 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
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salaam,

firstly i think it is important to remember that while there are 4 [or 5]
schools surviving now, there were actually countless more schools in the
earlier centuries.  and while the 4 "founders" of the surviving school might
have been arab, the schools themselves develop through the scholarship of
many many many scholars through the centuries who represent the regional
diversity of the muslim world.

that being said, i think it is true that the existing cutlural norms of the
various regions in which the schools developed have been made normative.   i
dont know tons about the development of islamic law, but my understanding is
that that is the idea behind it. is there not the premise that the urf of
the people remains constant unless it specifically conflicts with islamic
teachings.

masalaama,

itrath





on 3/11/04 8:15 AM, Afdhere Jama at [email protected] wrote:

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> salaam, br. na'eem,
> 
> i didn't know the major madhabs were started by non-arabs. i thought all four
> madhabs were started by arabs (check the link below.) but besides that, all
> the major muslim "paths" were carved by arabs--- hence why a lot of people
> carry much of arab culture as "muslim" (the most apparent of which is -- for
> example -- the khamiis and 3immamah where in the arab world most arabs,
> including non-muslims, wear.)
> 
> also, i don't know about other branches but the largest branch, sunnism, have
> had a majority of arab scholars;
> 
> http://www.sunnah.org/history/Scholars/
> 
> i would like to point out a rather obvious point of this arab power amongst
> the muslims. while the paths arabs start seem to grow fast in other muslim
> lands (such recent paths would include wahabbism, which is the fastest growing
> path in islam now), non-arab paths seem to go a whole lot slower in the arab
> world. why do you think this is? :)
> 
> 
> afdhere 
> Afdhere Jama 
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>> From: "Na'eem Jeenah" >Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >To: [email protected],
>> [email protected] >Subject: Re:
>> [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] slavery, polygamy >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004
>> 10:59:40 +0200 > >salaam > > > in the > > arab world (who -- whether folks
>> agree or not -- "set" muslim rules), > >I don't agree. firstly, I don't know
>> about this notion of anyone 'setting' >the rules for Islam. I'm not sure what
>> that means. Secondly, if we look >at the most influential Muslim fiqh
>> scholars, a large number of them >were not arab. Consider the initiators of
>> the major madhahib and the >compilers of ahadith, eg. > >na'eem >
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