Re: slavery, polygamy
itrath <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:27:52 -0800
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salaam, the idea that shafii is the originator of islamic law is i think over stated. wael hallaq has an interesting article on this subject called, "was al-shafi the master architect of islamic jurisprudence?", published in the international journal of middle east studies. masalaama, itrath on 3/15/04 9:34 AM, Afdhere Jama at [email protected] wrote: > > salam, > > well, in the arab world, even though the laws of hanafi is in use (since it > was forced by the ottoman empire,) majority of people in places like syria, > palestine, jordan, etc, are shafi'is in practice. also, south east asia is > mainly shafi'i. shafi'i's model of law (i.e, quran, sunnah, ijmah, ra'yi) is > now used by all schools of thought. it is considered the 'basic' for islamic > thought. > afdhere > > > Afdhere Jama > Editorial Director > HURIYAH Publications > S A N F R A N C I S C O > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.huriyahmag.com > >> From: "na'eem jeenah" >Reply-To: [email protected] >> >To: [email protected], >> [email protected] >Subject: Re: >> [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] slavery, polygamy >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 >> 10:21:10 +0200 > >salaam > >I'm sorry but I think your understanding of the >> madhhabi >demographics as well as your understanding of the >location of >> these madhahib needs some revision. (Btw, >where do you get the idea that the >> Shafi'i madhhab is >regarded as "pure" Islam? Maybe where you come from. >> >Certainly not in most of the world - Muslim world and the >rest of the >> world. > >na'eem > >On 12 Mar 2004 at 9:03, Afdhere Jama wrote: > > > > > > > >> salam, na'eem, > > abu hanifa is a very good example. no one in the arab >> world but small > > minority follow his madhab. on top of that, the majority >> of the > > muslims (non-arabs) follow theother madhabs brought by arabs. in >> fact, > > the majority of muslims follow the shafi'i -- which is brought by >> the > > qureishi imam. shafi'i's system of laws, for example,are used by all >> > > muslims... since all schools use it. it's quite interesting when you > > >> look into all these things. yes, definitely there were a lot more > > >> scholars who were non-arab. that is not the argument at all. that is a > > >> reality in both number and interest. but the basic fact is that arab > > >> thought amongst muslims travels way faster than the other way around. > > and >> this is the natural process, perhaps, since arabs brought islam in > > the >> first place. the discussion began with arab culture being > > mish-mashed >> with islam. it is interesting to note that abu hanafi's > > work was really >> more (non-arabic) cultural and then enveloped by > > islamic law. while the >> ottomans forced this thought on muslims during > > their reign, folks had no >> problem putting them aside when therule > > fell. however, shafi'i's more >> arabized islamic law was able to > > transform into 'pure' islam for most >> muslims. what gives? > > > > afdhere > > >> >_______________________________________________ >ProgressiveMuslims mailing >> list >[email protected] >> >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from bCentral. > <http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2749??PS=> > _______________________________________________ ProgressiveMuslims mailing > list [email protected] > http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims