Re: slavery, polygamy

itrath <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:27:52 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
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salaam,

the idea that shafii is the originator of islamic law is i think over
stated.  wael hallaq has an interesting article on this subject called, "was
al-shafi the master architect of islamic jurisprudence?", published in the
international journal of middle east studies.

masalaama,

itrath 



on 3/15/04 9:34 AM, Afdhere Jama at [email protected] wrote:

> 
> salam, 
> 
> well, in the arab world, even though the laws of hanafi is in use (since it
> was forced by the ottoman empire,) majority of people in places like syria,
> palestine, jordan, etc, are shafi'is in practice. also, south east asia is
> mainly shafi'i. shafi'i's model of law (i.e, quran, sunnah, ijmah, ra'yi) is
> now used by all schools of thought. it is considered the 'basic' for islamic
> thought. 
> afdhere
> 
> 
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>> From: "na'eem jeenah" >Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >To: [email protected],
>> [email protected] >Subject: Re:
>> [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] slavery, polygamy >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004
>> 10:21:10 +0200 > >salaam > >I'm sorry but I think your understanding of the
>> madhhabi >demographics as well as your understanding of the >location of
>> these madhahib needs some revision. (Btw, >where do you get the idea that the
>> Shafi'i madhhab is >regarded as "pure" Islam? Maybe where you come from.
>> >Certainly not in most of the world - Muslim world and the >rest of the
>> world. > >na'eem > >On 12 Mar 2004 at 9:03, Afdhere Jama wrote: > > > > > > >
>> salam, na'eem, > > abu hanifa is a very good example. no one in the arab
>> world but small > > minority follow his madhab. on top of that, the majority
>> of the > > muslims (non-arabs) follow theother madhabs brought by arabs. in
>> fact, > > the majority of muslims follow the shafi'i -- which is brought by
>> the > > qureishi imam. shafi'i's system of laws, for example,are used by all
>> > > muslims... since all schools use it. it's quite interesting when you > >
>> look into all these things. yes, definitely there were a lot more > >
>> scholars who were non-arab. that is not the argument at all. that is a > >
>> reality in both number and interest. but the basic fact is that arab > >
>> thought amongst muslims travels way faster than the other way around. > > and
>> this is the natural process, perhaps, since arabs brought islam in > > the
>> first place. the discussion began with arab culture being > > mish-mashed
>> with islam. it is interesting to note that abu hanafi's > > work was really
>> more (non-arabic) cultural and then enveloped by > > islamic law. while the
>> ottomans forced this thought on muslims during > > their reign, folks had no
>> problem putting them aside when therule > > fell. however, shafi'i's more
>> arabized islamic law was able to > > transform into 'pure' islam for most
>> muslims. what gives? > > > > afdhere > >
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