Re: slavery, polygamy
"Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:31:30 -0800
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salam, i don't think it matters what anyone follows-- amongst the sunnis, when it comes to the four schools. they are all accepted as good. some (like shafi'i), however, do have some more "power base" over others... in terms of them being followed than the other way, but it is not a big deal. i was referring to south east asians like indonesia, malaysia, singapore, etc. and, brother moo, it is the rites/practice stuff ... not the actual law. in pakistan, they do have sharia laws, however. afdhere Afdhere Jama Editorial Director HURIYAH Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O [email protected] http://www.huriyahmag.com >From: Mohammad Islam >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: "Afdhere Jama" >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] slavery, polygamy >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:48:57 -0500 > >Asslam-o-Alikoom, > >Perhaps in Middle Eastern countries majority of Muslims may >follow Shafi'i school but not in Inida and Pakistan (South >Asia). Muslims of those two countries follow Hanafi school. > >The bigger question is does it matter what school of thought one >may choose to follow? > > > > >________________________________________________ >Get your own "800" number >Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more >http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > >---- On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Afdhere Jama ([email protected]) >wrote: > > > salam, > > well, in the arab world, even though the laws of hanafi is >in use (since it was forced by the > > ottoman empire,) majority of people in places like syria, >palestine, jordan, etc, are shafi'is in > > practice. also, south east asia is mainly shafi'i. shafi'i's >model of law (i.e, quran, sunnah, ijmah, > > ra'yi) is now used by all schools of thought. it is considered >the 'basic' for islamic thought. > > afdhere > > Afdhere Jama Editorial Director > HURIYAH > > Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O > href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] > > >href="http://www.huriyahmag.com">http://www.huriyahmag.com > > >From: "na'eem jeenah" >Reply-To: > > [email protected] >To: >[email protected], > > [email protected] >Subject: Re: >[Progressivemuslimsnetwork] slavery, > > polygamy >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:21:10 +0200 > >salaam > > >I'm sorry but I think > > your understanding of the madhhabi >demographics as well as >your understanding of the >location > > of these madhahib needs some revision. (Btw, >where do you get >the idea that the Shafi'i madhhab > > is >regarded as "pure" Islam? Maybe where you come from. > >Certainly not in most of the world - > > Muslim world and the >rest of the world. > >na'eem > >On 12 >Mar 2004 at 9:03, Afdhere > > Jama wrote: > &g t; > > > > > salam, na'eem, > > abu hanifa is a >very good > > example. no one in the arab world but small > > minority >follow his madhab. on top of that, the > > majority of the > > muslims (non-arabs) follow theother >madhabs brought by arabs. in fact, > > > > the majority of muslims follow the shafi'i -- which is >brought by the > > qureishi imam. > > shafi'i's system of laws, for example,are used by all > > >muslims... since all schools use it. > > it's quite interesting when you > > look into all these >things. yes, definitely there were a > > lot more > > scholars who were non-arab. that is not the >argument at all. that is a > > > > reality in both number and interest. but the basic fact is >that arab > > thought amongst > > muslims travels way faster than the other way around. > > and >this is the natural process, > > perhaps, since arabs brought islam in > > the first place. the >discussion began with arab > > culture being > > mish-mashed with islam. it is interesting to >note that abu hanafi's > > > > work was really more (non-arabic) cultural and then enveloped >by > > islamic law. while the > > ottomans forced this thought on muslims during > > their >reign, folks had no pro > > blem putting them aside when therule > > fell. however, >shafi'i's more arabized islamic law was > > able to > > transform into 'pure' islam for most muslims. what >gives? > > > > > > afdhere > > >_______________________________________________ > >ProgressiveMuslims mailing > > list >Progr [email protected] > > > >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims > ---------- > href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2749??PS=">Get business advice >and resources to improve your work > > life, from bCentral. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ProgressiveMuslims mailing list > > [email protected] > > >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >ProgressiveMuslims mailing list >[email protected] >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims ---------- Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from bCentral.