Re: Hirshi

salaam,

and that is the key issue here. the underlying concern is not for women's
rights but for the racist idea of who belongs and who doesnt.  who is
illegal and who isnt.  if he was inciting violence than he should be subject
to criminal prosecution under the laws of whichever country.  the idea of,
"we dont like him so lets boot him out", is an incredibly dangerous one.

this is a time for care and vigilance as our civil rights are under full
attack.

itrath




> From: "Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Muslim community debate and discussion
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:51:15 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] Hirshi
> 
> 
> salam, talib,
> 
> to be honest, i did not feel sad that the darned imam was deported from
> france. i felt bad that all whacked religious nuts were not. that is what
> bothers me, that there is a rather discrimination launched between whackos.
> 
> i know of orthodox rabbis in america who teach horrible things about women,
> gays, non-jews, etc. i also know of right wing christians who do about the
> same. and their likes are all over the place, and most certainly in france.
> but nobody deports them.
> 
> Afdhere Jama
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> 
> 
>> From: "talib ul-Haq" <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Muslim community debate and
>> discussion<[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] Hirshi
>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:58:52 +0000
>> 
>> Salaams,
>> 
>> Far from being a sister, Irshi Ali has declared herself a non-believer on
>> more than one occassion, including on a Dutch TV debate with Farid Esack.
>> She really just uses her blackness in a terrible way to support a right
>> wing agenda in the The Netherlands.
>> 
>> The larger and fascinating issue is the way some Muslims are being
>> compelled to change deeply rooted belied such as that on wife beating their
>> often under the pressure of greater scrutiny by the west. The case of the
>> North African imam being deported from France for citing the Qur'anic text
>> that conones spousal abouse for example.
>> 
>> The fact that such re-thinking is not dirven by internal ethical
>> imperatives are sad.
>> 
>> Salaams
>> 
>> Talib
>> 
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