CryoNet #31852 - #31856

CryoNet - Thu 6 Aug 2009

    #31852: Marketing cryonics - European values and religiosity [David Stodolsky]
    #31853: Arrangements in Oregon [Charles Platt]
    #31854: suspension accident? [Freeposity]
    #31855: thawing [Charles Platt]
    #31856: Cryonics Oregon meetup [Chana de Wolf]

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Message #31852
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Subject: Marketing cryonics - European values and religiosity
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:39:55 +0200

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121429315/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Verkasalo, et al. (2009). European Norms and Equations for a Two  
Dimensional Presentation of Values as Measured with Schwartz's 21-item  
Portrait Values Questionnaire. European J. of Social Psychology,  
39(5), pp. 780-92.


The part of this study of interest to us concerns the evidence of  
religiosity in different countries. This was measured indirectly as  
the frequency of praying. Frequency. of praying increases with  
Conservation (beta=.24) and Self-Transcendence (beta=.15) values. In  
other words, the strongest effect results from the Conservation  
dimension. Thus, the more people in a country express Openness to  
Change, the opposite of Conservation, and to a lesser degree Self- 
Enhancement, the opposite of Self-Transcendence, the less prayer  
frequency and therefore lower religiosity.

We know from the reanalysis of the Badger data that increased  
religiosity means less acceptance of cryonics. It is no surprise that  
greater Openness to Change is associated with less religiosity and  
greater acceptance of cryonics. The 3 countries that show highest  
Openness to Change are Switzerland, Denmark, and Sweden (Fig 2, p.  
786). However, Switzerland is one of the 2 countries which is very  
high on Self-Transcendence, this pulls in the wrong direction. Denmark  
and Sweden are not significantly different from each other, but Sweden  
appears to be slightly less religious. From this we can conclude that  
marketing of cryonics is most likely to be successful in Europe in  
these two Countries.

At this time, I am reproducing the test marketing materials that can  
be downloaded from the 'files' page of www.cosmism.info. However, due  
to the total lack of funding for this research, I am printing the  
Folder in black and white. Color printing would be about ten times as  
expensive. That is, about a thousand USD, for the 1,000 Folders needed  
for this preliminary test. At this time, I want to state again my call  
for contributions for the proposed study, which would test the  
marketing of cryonics in a few European Countries. It does appear that  
I happen to be conducting this first trial in an ideal location. It  
would be extremely short sighted to compromise the results due to a  
failure to supply even minimal financial support.


dss


David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #31853
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:42:43 -0700
Subject: Arrangements in Oregon
From: Charles Platt <[email protected]>

Some time ago I contacted the group "Compassion and Choices in Oregon"
regarding the issue of autopsy. Below is their reply, which they have
agreed that I can post on this discussion list. If you choose to make
contact with them please bear in mind that you will be an informal
representative of the cryonics community.

The Oregon law does impose some very significant requirements for
residency, which I think would require at least three months to
satisfy. Thus, Oregon would only be an option for someone who is able
to move well in advance of legal death.

All the regulations can easily be found online by anyone with a
serious interest.

--Charles Platt


An autopsy is not performed on a person who dies after taking the
lethal dose of medication prescribed under Oregon's aid-in-dying.
Therefore, you have nothing to worry about if you use Oregon's law and
also wish to be cryopreserved.

George Eighmey
Executive Director
Compassion & Choices of Oregon
PO Box 6404
Portland, OR 97228
Tel: 503-525-1956
Fax: 800-930-0535
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.compassionoforegon.org

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Message #31854
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:26:29 -0500
Subject: suspension accident?
From: Freeposity <[email protected]>

I am currently discussing cryonics on another mailing list and someone
made the claim that a cryonics company went belly up in the 90's and
those who were suspended, thawed and were lost.

I can't find any evidence to corroborate this story. Can I safely
state this is just a rumor?

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Message #31855
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:55:49 -0400
Subject: thawing
From: Charles Platt <[email protected]>

Freeposity says (s)he cannot find any evidence that cryonics patients
were ever accidentally thawed in the 1990s. This is true; when
CryoCare Foundation lost its capability to process new cases, the two
existing patients were transferred without incident to Alcor, which
accepted them because they had been sufficiently funded. The only
documented instance of cryonics patients being allowed to thaw was at
Chatsworth, California, many years previously. It is mentioned in the
Wikipedia entry on cryonics.

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Message #31856
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:04:15 -0700
Subject: Cryonics Oregon meetup
From: Chana de Wolf <[email protected]>

The next meeting of Cryonics Oregon will be held Sunday, August 16,
2009. Shannon Vyff will be visiting with us as well. She's an
outspoken author and Alcor member who is very involved in cryonics and
life extension activism. She is originally from Oregon and will be
visiting her family here before moving to the UK.

Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009
Time: 2:00 p.m.
Place: Deschutes Brewpub
210 NW 11th Avenue
Portland, OR 97209

Hope to see anyone within feasible driving distance!

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