CryoNet #31862 - #31865

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CryoNet - Wed 12 Aug 2009

    #31862: Re: CryoNet #31858 - #31861 [dkollin]
    #31863: Kollins OK [Ettinger]
    #31864: Krugman Explains Why Progress Is Slowing Down [Mark Plus]
    #31865: Canadian cryonics summer party, Saturday, August 15 [benbest]

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Message #31862
Subject: Re: CryoNet #31858 - #31861
From: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:23:40 -0700 (PDT)

It's so ok!

Dani and Eytan

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CryoNet - Tue 11 Aug 2009

    #31858: Oregon and Cryonics [mugsim2]
    #31859: Re: CryoNet #31857 [J Coetzee MSc]
    #31860: Kollin bros. [Ettinger]
    #31861: apology [Ettinger]

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Message #31858
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:56:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Oregon and Cryonics

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Message #31859
From: "J Coetzee MSc" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #31857
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:39:02 -0400

To age you must first develop. it is a misnomer. The heading should be: The 
girl that does not develop. This can be done with hormone supplements. 
Someone is medicating her. 

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Message #31860
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:58:10 EDT
Subject: Kollin bros.

Dani and Eytan Kollin are the authors of THE UNINCORPORATED MAN, a science  
fiction book that has gotten very good reviews and appears to be selling 
well.  The story concerns a wealthy man who is cryopreserved and centuries 
later is  revived in a very different world. 
 
 
The brothers have joined CI and were kind enough to visit me today. May  
they prosper in their new endeavor.
 
 
Bob


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Message #31861
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:35:45 EDT
Subject: apology

Talk about galloping  senility! I reported that the Kollin brothers  have 
joined CI, without asking their permission. 
 
 
From our conversation, my impression is that there won't be a problem, but  
I appeal to readers here not to disseminate this information any further 
unless  they say OK.
 
 
Sheepishly,
 
Bob


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Message #31863
From: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:49:10 EDT
Subject: Kollins OK

The Kollin brothers have said it's OK to mention their CI membership.
 
Bob


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Message #31864
From: Mark Plus <[email protected]>
Subject: Krugman Explains Why Progress Is Slowing Down
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:49:31 -0700

This blog post doesn't provide the "why," however. It just recounts Krugman's examples showing that progress has decelerated.

http://io9.com/5335000/krugman-explains-why-progress-is-slowing-down


      Krugman Explains Why Progress Is Slowing Down
      By Charlie Jane Anders, 10:09 AM on Tue Aug 11 2009, 2,532 views 

      It's become a cliche to say that our world is changing faster and faster, as we hurtle towards an ultra-advanced future. But it's not true, Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman told Worldcon. Actually, change is slowing down.

      Krugman came to Worldcon for two events: a conversation with his favorite living science-fiction author, Charles Stross (which we sadly missed because we were on an airplane) and a one-person talk about science fiction and economics. At the latter, he started out by saying Isaac Asimov's Foundation series inspired his decision to become an economist, since you couldn't actually study to become a psychohistorian. (He's said this many times before, and in fact, said it again in this past weekend's New York Times Book Review.)

      But the most surprising part of Krugman's talk was his assertion that the world is actually changing less quickly than in the past. "The pace of change has actually, generation by generation, been slowing down," he claimed. "The world of today is not as different from the world of 1959 as the world of 1959 was from 1909."

      So let's say that you travel 30 years into the future and find yourself in a shopping mall. You'll be astounded at the "great gizmos" that are for sale there, but you'll still be able to recognize it as a shopping mall, said Krugman. On the other hand, lots of trends are likely to come to a head over the next few decades, including climate change and peak oil, and they could result in a drastically different world.

      Krugman just cleaned out his library and found he had four copies of tons of books published over the last couple decades, since he gets two advance review copies and two copies of the finished book. And he found himself tossing out duplicate copies of tons of futurist books that were depressingly off the mark about predicting the main concern of the 1990s or 2000s. (e.g. war with Japan.) So he's leery of trying to predict the future.

      And of course, science fiction was ridiculously over-optimistic about the world of 2009, with talk of space colonization and undersea cities, and yet missed some huge changes which really have happened. "I remember reading something which had all these people flying around between planets, and using slide rules to calculate their next course," said Krugman.





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Message #31865
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:38:20 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Canadian cryonics summer party, Saturday, August 15

The annual Canadian cryonics summer party
is being held in Toronto again this year.
The party will be Saturday, August 15th
(this Saturday) from about 3pm to 7pm.

http://www.cryocdn.org/news.html

All cryonics-interested persons are invited
to attend. This is a potluck event, but
don't worry too much about what food to
bring. I usually grab some fruit at a
fruit market near the party.

The party is near Woodbine and Danforth
(east end of Toronto, close to the
Bloor-Danforth subway line). Anyone planning
to come should e-mail me for the exact
location: benbest(at)interlog.com with
"Canadian cryonics summer party" in the
subject line.

            -- Ben Best

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